[Floridian]

Hey Fiddy you'll find Tiger Bloom brings down the Ph drastically,more than any other fert I've ever used.I used TB for many years it's good shit but in my experience with ferts Pure Blend Pro is even better.Do a side by side with structurally identical clones from the same mom sometime if you can

[Fiddynut]

Originally Posted by Rodehazrd

Hey guys I'll have to checkout that steam mop. Sounds great.
The ph and calcium issue sure varies depending on location. Water source is sure key. I found one thing odd though your water went acid with the nutes and was harder to restore with tap as opposed to RO
If it's buffered on the way up why did that not prevent the downward swing in the first place?
Rodehazrd

Good morning Rodehazrd.
After rereading my comments on the pHing of my RO water I think I was not making sense. I didn't remember having to use that much pH up before. After going back and looking at my daily log from a couple grows ago and last grow I realize I was using less nutes and therefore didn't need as much pH up to compensate. The spring water at 8+ pH was resistant to moving down below 6 with the light doses I was using.
You are right that the buffering with all that mineral content should make it resist change in either direction. I may have also said something to the effect of "it's easer to bring pH down than up" and this is incorrect. I think I was confused because when I needed to lower pH it would take very little pH down but when I need to raise it it takes more pH up. This is because pH down is more powerful than pH up (at least the brands that I use) and not because the water resists change in one direction more than another.
Now that my water and all the nutes I use have a low pH I won't be needing pH down anymore unless I start using a nute that raises pH. I believe silica additives can raise pH and some suggest using it as pH up for example.
Sorry to be confusing, sometimes I just start typing and don't make much sense. Not trying to spread misinformation either.
I hope you are well and your weekend is off to a good start...Fiddy.

[Fiddynut]

Originally Posted by Floridian

Hey Fiddy you'll find Tiger Bloom brings down the Ph drastically,more than any other fert I've ever used.I used TB for many years it's good shit but in my experience with ferts Pure Blend Pro is even better.Do a side by side with structurally identical clones from the same mom sometime if you can

Good morning Floridian.
You are right TB is super acidic. I fed the LW's again last night and gave about the same dose of nutes. Needed about 4-1/2 ml of pH up per gallon of nute mix to get pH to 6.5+. It's not the water resisting change but the acidity of the nutes that determine how much pH up I need. I think I was just a little nervous the first couple of waterings and feedings because of the new water.
I might grab a bottle of the grow and bloom pure blend pro next time I'm at the hydro shop. I've heard good things about it from you and others.
I hope your weekend is off to a good start....Fiddy.

[pop_rocks]

let me know how you like the pure blend pro, fiddy
im especially interested in the bloom but if i get it i would buy the set
how long hvae you been using it floridian?
what others hvae you used in the past?
i usually stick with fox farm stuff but i would like to try something different

we used to have a state trooper who lived close by
he was actually pretty cool and liked football so we got along
i dont know what his position was on weed but that wasnt part of our relationship
i generally keep teh smoking stuff to myself and try not to advertise i even like weed
even people ive known for a long time are suprised when the see me smoke weed
i dont tell anyone about growing it myself
its always "...something i got from a friend"

st aptricks was pretty fun
went to a friends house and had a bunch of corned beef
he was draging ass so we dident eat until like 10p, so i was out kind of late
it was super foggy too last night so i ended up staying up even later, getting high on the back porch just enoying the fog

hope all you guys are having a great weekend!
spring should be right around the corner

[Floridian]

I've been using PBP for about eight years,the first five years or so I used fox farm nutes.If there is a negative in using PBP its that it is more expensive to use than FF,not so much because of the price as in the amount you use or can use.I have found it nearly impossible to cause a negative reaction using PBP as opposed to fox farm.Especially grow big you really had to be careful using that stuff I remember.I have not really used any other products except of maybe a few weeks or so of some other brands but I was never impressed,especially price wise.

[Fiddynut]

Originally Posted by pop_rocks

let me know how you like the pure blend pro, fiddy
im especially interested in the bloom but if i get it i would buy the set
how long hvae you been using it floridian?
what others hvae you used in the past?
i usually stick with fox farm stuff but i would like to try something different

we used to have a state trooper who lived close by
he was actually pretty cool and liked football so we got along
i dont know what his position was on weed but that wasnt part of our relationship
i generally keep teh smoking stuff to myself and try not to advertise i even like weed
even people ive known for a long time are suprised when the see me smoke weed
i dont tell anyone about growing it myself
its always "...something i got from a friend"

st aptricks was pretty fun
went to a friends house and had a bunch of corned beef
he was draging ass so we dident eat until like 10p, so i was out kind of late
it was super foggy too last night so i ended up staying up even later, getting high on the back porch just enoying the fog

hope all you guys are having a great weekend!
spring should be right around the corner

Good afternoon pop_rocks.
I'll let you know on the pure blend pro for sure. I was thinking and I'm not sure if I need the veg or not. It seems like I'm going to have to transplant every 10-14 days to keep the plants happy and all that new soil seems to be enough to keep them going just fine. Especially if I add worm castings to the soil like I did this time. My bottle of grow big never seems to get used.
Pop_rocks do you use the big bloom with the tiger bloom? I haven't been but I'm thinking about incorporating some into the routine. It's suppose to add flavor to the finished product. The bottle I got about 10 months ago when I started growing should still be ok. I'll check it for an experation date.
The cop who lived across the street seemed pretty cool and was a biker. Still had to be very carful. Things are very old fashioned around here and they love to make an example of people. It's said that we are like the south of the north here. Almost as conservative as the Deep South of the country.
I need to do a better job of keeping my growing to myself. Too many people know already. A few of the people I use to sell to have figured it out, all of whom I work with and are cool but they still shouldn't know. I think I'm going to tell them I keep killing my plants and gave up on growing. A couple other friends at work are about to start growing and I'm helping them to get the right equipment and set up. One of them got in on my last seed order. I want to be helpful and spread knowledge but don't want to take too many risks.
I'm glad you enjoined st pats day. I completely slept and didn't make any of the pickled brisket and cabbage. I'll have to make up for that over the next couple weeks with plenty. I have a great recipe for making corned beef from scratch. If anyone is interested I can post it. It takes a few days and uses common ingredients. Let me know.
I'm so jealous you got to sit on your porch last evening. I can't wait for it to get nice enough for that here. Won't be long though.
I hope your weekend is off to a great start and all is well...Fiddy.

[Rodehazrd]

Originally Posted by Fiddynut

Good morning Rodehazrd.
After rereading my comments on the pHing of my RO water I think I was not making sense. I didn't remember having to use that much pH up before. After going back and looking at my daily log from a couple grows ago and last grow I realize I was using less nutes and therefore didn't need as much pH up to compensate. The spring water at 8+ pH was resistant to moving down below 6 with the light doses I was using.
You are right that the buffering with all that mineral content should make it resist change in either direction. I may have also said something to the effect of "it's easer to bring pH down than up" and this is incorrect. I think I was confused because when I needed to lower pH it would take very little pH down but when I need to raise it it takes more pH up. This is because pH down is more powerful than pH up (at least the brands that I use) and not because the water resists change in one direction more than another.
Now that my water and all the nutes I use have a low pH I won't be needing pH down anymore unless I start using a nute that raises pH. I believe silica additives can raise pH and some suggest using it as pH up for example.
Sorry to be confusing, sometimes I just start typing and don't make much sense. Not trying to spread misinformation either.
I hope you are well and your weekend is off to a good start...Fiddy.

Thanks for the clarification Fiddy like I said I'm still getting a handle on ph and ta. My mind is often a three ring circus of random factoids and it feels great to occasionally get the horses going the same direction. If only in brief flashes.
Big Bloom is ff micronutrients product I think it is needed till flush. I'm using fish hydro exclusively this round and wonder About the micronutrients.
Rodehazrd

[pop_rocks]

hows it going guys?

today was the first real ride on the mountain bike for me in who knows how long
at first i was going on the sheer stoke of being out again and tripping on how much things have changed
that only lasted for about the first 5 miles and the rest of the ride was a pure sufferfest
on the last big hill i completely ran out of leg and that was it for me
i thought i was keeping in ok shape but now i see how far i let myself go
hoping we can get another ride in this week but they say its supposed to rain so we prob wont be back on the trails until next weekend

ive never used big bloom but i will use tiger bloom on occasion
i also have the open sesame/beastie bloom/ cha'ching trio of ferts i used to use when i would run hydro,that i have used in soil
they are really concentrated so i use them at about half strength and only feed every other watering

i havent been using them on this run but might add some into the next watering
i also have this dr earth stuff i use as a general fertilizer
other than that i will use molasses after the first couple weeks of flower

dude, i am totally interested in your corned beef recipe
my friend let me take some slabs of beef home and i was going to use it to make some corned beef hash for breakfast, but the "kitchen monsters" got to it before i had a chance
/of course they left most of the cabbage and carrots alone

thats totally cool of you helping out your friends get their gear set up
im totally wiht you on wanting to help out and share the knowledge
i also just like talking about pot

[Fiddynut]

Originally Posted by Rodehazrd

Thanks for the clarification Fiddy like I said I'm still getting a handle on ph and ta. My mind is often a three ring circus of random factoids and it feels great to occasionally get the horses going the same direction. If only in brief flashes.
Big Bloom is ff micronutrients product I think it is needed till flush. I'm using fish hydro exclusively this round and wonder About the micronutrients.
Rodehazrd

Good afternoon Rodehazrd.
I'm with you on random facts spinning my head around. I have bits and pieces of knowledge floating around from the thousands of threads I've read here the past year do so. Bits and pieces from threads I stumbled across months ago that don't always click right away. Sometimes I don't even remember what I was searching for when I come across something that stays with me. Months later a bell rings and I'm able to put things together.
I think the last time I used Big Bloom I misused it on young plants and they had a bad reaction (and may have had rootbound plants at the time) so I've not been using it since then. It does have lots of micros in it and I should probably start feeding with it or switch to something else with micros. I just went to the hydro store and got a couple things to try. More about that in today's update.
I hope your weekend was good and you are well...Fiddy.

[Fiddynut]

Originally Posted by pop_rocks

hows it going guys?

today was the first real ride on the mountain bike for me in who knows how long
at first i was going on the sheer stoke of being out again and tripping on how much things have changed
that only lasted for about the first 5 miles and the rest of the ride was a pure sufferfest
on the last big hill i completely ran out of leg and that was it for me
i thought i was keeping in ok shape but now i see how far i let myself go
hoping we can get another ride in this week but they say its supposed to rain so we prob wont be back on the trails until next weekend

ive never used big bloom but i will use tiger bloom on occasion
i also have the open sesame/beastie bloom/ cha'ching trio of ferts i used to use when i would run hydro,that i have used in soil
they are really concentrated so i use them at about half strength and only feed every other watering

i havent been using them on this run but might add some into the next watering
i also have this dr earth stuff i use as a general fertilizer
other than that i will use molasses after the first couple weeks of flower

dude, i am totally interested in your corned beef recipe
my friend let me take some slabs of beef home and i was going to use it to make some corned beef hash for breakfast, but the "kitchen monsters" got to it before i had a chance
/of course they left most of the cabbage and carrots alone

thats totally cool of you helping out your friends get their gear set up
im totally wiht you on wanting to help out and share the knowledge
i also just like talking about pot

Good afternoon pop_rocks.
Great to hear you got out for a ride. I'm sure once you start riding regularly again your legs will come right back to you. My legs are going to need a few months to get me back to respectable though. As soon as I'm done with this reply and an update I'm going to get the tires pumped up and take a bike ride around the neighborhood. I gotta start somewhere and it's finally starting to warm up around here. It's going to be way too muddy to off road for a while here, the foot of snow we got last week melted over the last couple days and it's sloppy everywhere.
Do you use the molasses for the Mg or to feed the soil? I was using it with the organic earth juice and budswel on my first grow. I may have over done it once and kind of stopped using it. I think the fox farm kelp nutes that I use after transplanting has molasses in it.
Sorry to hear you missed out on leftover corned beef. You have to watch out for those "kitchen monsters" hahaha. Early bird gets the worm hahaa.I still haven't made any this season. I will post home corned beef recipe tonight after my bicycle ride.
Good people like you have given me the info I needed to get growing and I am glad to share it with others. Now that I know how easy it is to grow autos I'm recommending to my friends that start with an auto grow first. They will be using t5's for the whole grow so it's best they don't try to grow taller plants. If I can help them get off to a good start they may get better lights and stuff as their skill improves.
Like you, I enjoy talking about pot. Most of my coworkers smoke so it's always being discussed all day at work. Even the ones wha don't are tolerant or supportive of cannabis.