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Old 02-26-2017, 12:26 PM #141
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Hey guys and good morning,
Interesting days of late. 80 on Friday blowing snow on Saturday.
@Fiddy you just can't tell how fast seeds will grow the first run. Clones make the schedule more stable but I bet we all run short on space no matter how many tents we have. Dubi at ace says Clones mature as much as 2 weeks faster than their mothers. I have not had direct experience of this but he has my respect.
I'm finding the longer I veg the better I like my results, so that room is getting crowded as I learn my strains. I'm just aching to get my Larry and some chronic going but the new 818 girls are taking some space to keep copies till we choose keepers.

@sunny I wouldn't be concerned about a few girls in the Bush. You know how to be covert and don't wear a path to the grow. Locals notice everything and everyone that's your main threat. I bet you would do well with the autos in your walks. Quick, short and you know how long they take to grow.
@pop you about to wash away? You needed rain but looks like you're getting a little extra. And expecting a wet spring wow. Hope the trails dry up and you get out soon. With all these changes I'm glad to be inside having crowded spaces.

Stay safe guys. It's r ace day in Daytona.
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What scissors do you have?
My daughter gifted me at Christmas with a set of Chickamasa trimmers. They don't have a spring but the coating resists resin.
I just leave the fiskars in the box now.
Of course some strains take more work. I quit blue dream because it was too much work to trim. The headband takes me about ten minutes per oz. Not many leaves in the flowers. It seems the Sat girls go easier than indicas. Also a wet hand doesn't get sticky. A finger bowl of water helps keep it on the bud not the hand.
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Hey guys and good morning,
Interesting days of late. 80 on Friday blowing snow on Saturday.
@Fiddy you just can't tell how fast seeds will grow the first run. Clones make the schedule more stable but I bet we all run short on space no matter how many tents we have. Dubi at ace says Clones mature as much as 2 weeks faster than their mothers. I have not had direct experience of this but he has my respect.
I'm finding the longer I veg the better I like my results, so that room is getting crowded as I learn my strains. I'm just aching to get my Larry and some chronic going but the new 818 girls are taking some space to keep copies till we choose keepers.

@sunny I wouldn't be concerned about a few girls in the Bush. You know how to be covert and don't wear a path to the grow. Locals notice everything and everyone that's your main threat. I bet you would do well with the autos in your walks. Quick, short and you know how long they take to grow.
@pop you about to wash away? You needed rain but looks like you're getting a little extra. And expecting a wet spring wow. Hope the trails dry up and you get out soon. With all these changes I'm glad to be inside having crowded spaces.

Stay safe guys. It's r ace day in Daytona.
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Good morning Rodehazrd.
Same weird weather around here. We had a taste of all 4 seasons last week with record highs up to 70 then lots of rain then snow then back into the 50 and everything melted. All the lakes are open (no ice) as well. I can't wait for spring now that I've had a taste of some nice weather.

Your right about seeds being unpredictable. I hadn't any experience with growing reg seeds and I'm learning that I have to let them do their thing and just chill. This experience has me thinking about my strategy and considering cloning again. If I do I may have to do second half of veg in the flower tent. That would increase the time between runs a solid couple of weeks. However not having to sex from pre flower would allow me to top and train them more. Also starting with mature clones would reduce veg time. That is very interesting that clones can mature faster than mothers. I've read that a clone that comes off of a mature mother is a mature plant even if just a couple nodes. Maybe that makes them quicker to flower as well. I've goon back and fourth a couple times on this and I'm probably overthinking it a bit. I think if I had a good run in the next couple I can be more confident that my environment is working and I'll be more inclined to try some new things. If I stockpile some buds from the autos I just harvested and this next run I'll be more confidant as well.

I see crowded tents in my future as well. I also see myself moving away from tents for flower and building out a room for that. I'd like to veg longer but I run out of headroom quick in the flower tent. I think I could add another foot of vert to my space if I built it with 2x4's and Sheetrock.

Those chickamasa trimmers sound like a great idea. I'd love to save some time trimming. I think the 6 autos I just trimmed up were the most trimming I've done so far. They don't have a ton of leaves but for some reason they took a lot of time. Probably because they were so sticky. The water trick sounds good too. I'm guessing that works great for wet trim.Thanks for turning me on to those trimmers I'll get some for next harvest.

I hope you enjoined the race yesterday. I'm a big fan of all racing. Motorcycle racing is my passion but I'd watch people race just about anything. I watched most of the 500. Lots of wrecking and the field was getting pretty small at the end. Not sure if the new 5 min rule is going to work out like they thought it would. Also the new points being given at "stages" is interesting. If you want people battling for the front maybe give a point for every lap led then you would have everyone racing for first place every lap. It will be interesting to see how the new rules go over the course of the season. Either way it's nice to see them racing again.
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morning fellas!

hope everyone had a great weekend
good tip about wetting your hands to prevent resin from sticking to them

the Chickamasa looks like a nice pair of scissors!
about how long can you go before experienceing hand fatigue?
i have a few pair of scissors i like using but almost always reach for the spring loaded fiskars with the fine tip
a good pair of scissors are worth their weight in hash when you grow your own
i have a few different pair, from the large pruners to the fine tipped fiskar
but who isnt looking for a new pair of good scissors

from my experience, clones do mature faster than plants grown from seeds
under ideal conditions ive seen clones finish up about a week faster tahn plants grown from seed
plus you can flower clones as soon as they root just like a mature plant
i have never tried flowering a plant from seed before it was a certain age but wonder how the flowers would turn out?
from clones, i used to flower numerous plantlettes, clones about 6-8" high
i would pack them in tight and they would grow another foot or so, so by the tiem you harvested them they were like bottle brushes,
just a single fat bud on a stick

thats so funny you mentioned crawdaddies
when i was a kid, a neighbor would pay us a nickle a piece for crawfish
a friend and i would go down to the canal and catch the suckers by the bucket full
i never really liked the thigns but mrs chicky will eat upa whole mess of the things
she just loves seafood

so more rain for us today
its not that bad and i am enjoying a day inside
cant wait for this spring tho
have a plan to grow some plants outdoors plus i will enjoy getting back on the bicycles
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morning fellas!

hope everyone had a great weekend
good tip about wetting your hands to prevent resin from sticking to them

the Chickamasa looks like a nice pair of scissors!
about how long can you go before experienceing hand fatigue?
i have a few pair of scissors i like using but almost always reach for the spring loaded fiskars with the fine tip
a good pair of scissors are worth their weight in hash when you grow your own
i have a few different pair, from the large pruners to the fine tipped fiskar
but who isnt looking for a new pair of good scissors

from my experience, clones do mature faster than plants grown from seeds
under ideal conditions ive seen clones finish up about a week faster tahn plants grown from seed
plus you can flower clones as soon as they root just like a mature plant
i have never tried flowering a plant from seed before it was a certain age but wonder how the flowers would turn out?
from clones, i used to flower numerous plantlettes, clones about 6-8" high
i would pack them in tight and they would grow another foot or so, so by the tiem you harvested them they were like bottle brushes,
just a single fat bud on a stick

thats so funny you mentioned crawdaddies
when i was a kid, a neighbor would pay us a nickle a piece for crawfish
a friend and i would go down to the canal and catch the suckers by the bucket full
i never really liked the thigns but mrs chicky will eat upa whole mess of the things
she just loves seafood

so more rain for us today
its not that bad and i am enjoying a day inside
cant wait for this spring tho
have a plan to grow some plants outdoors plus i will enjoy getting back on the bicycles
Good afternoon pop_rocks.
My weekend was good but I didn't get as much chill time as I'd have liked. I got my auto harvest buds to the right moisture content and weighed up the totals. I did some running around for soil, pots and found a bag of worm castings at the garden store. I also transplanted 5 LW's. Kind of a lot of running around and not a lot of me time but can't complain.

Like you mentioned sea of green seems to work best from clone. I think you can go 12/12 from seed but the plant still has to grow until mature then start flowering. A clone from a mature plant will start flowering right away in 12/12.

How are your plants doing? Did the dark green one turn out to be a girl? Don't hesitate to post up some pics of them as we all love looking at plants. Are you taking cuts of her? I hope she is doing well and stacking nodes.

I use to catch crawfish in the ponds around here. They are faster in the water than they look. They always seem to be hiding under rocks and stuff. They are kind of fun to play with.

Spring will be here soon. That little nice weather last week has me looking forward to it. That said it might be a few weeks around here until we see 70 deg around here again. I hope it dries out for you guys on the coast.
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Old 02-27-2017, 09:17 PM #146
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Greetings friends.
The wookies are looking a bit stressed lately. I think they were too big for the 8" pots that they were in. The pots hold about a gallon of soil and the roots had filled the space a couple weeks ago, just a few days after I transplanted them into the pots. I probably didn't help matters by letting them get pretty dry before the last watering. They were getting droopy looking under watered. I was also using cal/mag with the spring water that I use and may have overdosed them a little. Not sure but I know too much mag locks out other nutrients. I've decided to get an RO water filter set up so that I can control what they are getting from the water in the future. I was hoping not to have to do this but I want to make sure I'm giving them what they need. I'll order that soon.

I was able to find 3 males by closely looking at the pre flowers. I also found that 4 are girls. That leaves 1 that I'm not sure on yet. This is my first experience with nonfem seeds and sexing took more time than I'd expected. Just like I've read it was the 3 biggest that were the confirmed males. Having to look this closely should help me keep a better eye on them going forward.

They were pissed so I decided to pot them up into their finishing pots. I used ocean forest soil with added perlite and worm castings. I will watch them closely for the next few days and I'm hoping they get happy and have a growth explosion.

I got a good look at the roots during transplant and they were looking good. Nice white color and thick. They were spun out around the bottom and had filled the old pots.

I'm hoping they were just pissed about being root bound and that they will be looking good in a couple days. If not I'm going to have to figure out what happened. They have only had one dose of nutes so if there is problems it's probably related to water or pot size. I'm probably just being a little paranoid but I want them pretty.
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sounds like things are really moving along with the regular plants
so are you going to toss the three confirmed males?
it sounds like you have your girls for this next run
good move on repoting them into bigger containers

ive been thinking about getting an ro system here but have held off
when i was growing hydroponically it was a necessity to use ro water
it made it easier to gauge nutrient content and provided a nice clean flush
im not as concerned with soil but it sounds like it might help in your case

im going to take some cuts of the plants soon
ill take another good look at the girls and let you know how they turn out
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Old 02-28-2017, 03:55 AM #148
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sounds like things are really moving along with the regular plants
so are you going to toss the three confirmed males?
it sounds like you have your girls for this next run
good move on repoting them into bigger containers

ive been thinking about getting an ro system here but have held off
when i was growing hydroponically it was a necessity to use ro water
it made it easier to gauge nutrient content and provided a nice clean flush
im not as concerned with soil but it sounds like it might help in your case

im going to take some cuts of the plants soon
ill take another good look at the girls and let you know how they turn out
Good evening pop_rocks.

Moving quicker than I had expected and I'm trying to adjust on the fly.
Males are gone already they were boys for sure. I only just have room for the 5 big pots in the tent so I'm glad the males showed. My only option would have been to put them back into the veg tent.
Looking forward to seeing these girls grow up. Once I see them happy again I'll feel a lot better. I hate to see them droopy.
Pretty sure they wanted a transplant. Every time my plants looked this way on my first two grows a transplant made them happy again.

I really didn't want to do RO water but my options are limited. I could have the spring water tested and see what's in it. The pH changes from time to time so I'd have to test it often. Without knowing what's in it I don't know what to add to it. I can get gallons of RO water at the store for $.75 but I'd be up to my ass in gallon jugs. My well water here is unacceptable for plants so I can't use that. The only choice that doesn't have me hauling lots of jugs of water around is to get the filters and use supplements. At least I won't have to fill all those jugs at the spring in winter anymore.

I hope your cuts root quickly. I might take some from the LW's after all.
Time for me to go down and get a look at the girls. I hope they look better than yesterday.
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Those scissors don't ha e a spring but they resist the goo and stay loose. I have bad arthritic knuckles and I don't have any discomfort. I only do 6-8 at a time so I
Get done quick. The wet hand trick I got from a colorado grower. It's fine for dry trim too not a lot of transferring wetness goes on like I thought it would.
Well it's FAt Tue I'm making a jambalaya for supper. I do love those mud bugs but they'd e hard to get right now. Got some Cajun sausage and dirty rice going though and we'll be throwing beads at each other later.
Fiddy I finally folded my tent and don't miss it at all. Drywall is lightweight now and a good white paint is durable. I left a 18" space all around my flower room to move in .I don't know where it went.
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Those scissors don't ha e a spring but they resist the goo and stay loose. I have bad arthritic knuckles and I don't have any discomfort. I only do 6-8 at a time so I
Get done quick. The wet hand trick I got from a colorado grower. It's fine for dry trim too not a lot of transferring wetness goes on like I thought it would.
Well it's FAt Tue I'm making a jambalaya for supper. I do love those mud bugs but they'd e hard to get right now. Got some Cajun sausage and dirty rice going though and we'll be throwing beads at each other later.
Fiddy I finally folded my tent and don't miss it at all. Drywall is lightweight now and a good white paint is durable. I left a 18" space all around my flower room to move in .I don't know where it went.
Peace
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Good afternoon Rodehazrd.

The scissors look great. Looks like a nice fine tip you can get into the little crevasses and such. Nice big finger loops too. I have a pair of little surgical scissors I use for the fine work and they only have loops for one finger so I get tired easy.
That's cool you can use the wet hand for dry trim as well. I suppose the trichomes don't let the bud soak up much water. Defiantly going to try it on next round.
Jambalaya sounds good I've made with chicken and sausage in past since I'm not into seafood. Love me some nice Cajun sausage. Some of the best homemade sausage I've ever made is andouille sausage. It's a lot of work and takes at least two days to make and smoke but so worth it. Be carful with the beads, we don't want anyone loosing an eye lol.
Yep I need more headroom than the tent gives me. The 3x3 footprint is also very restrictive. I already have a bunch of studs just need drywall and dome ducting for my 4'&6' air ducts. And I have to figure out how to make a door that is light proof. Another project for me to do.
Thanks for sharing and have a great Fat Tuesday...Fiddy.
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