[pop_rocks]

im very lucky that my girls parents are pretty cool
on the surface they are very different me, but they are easy to get along with and really good people

you are right about using different trimming techniques at different times of year
in the summer,i want to slow the process so i jsut rough out the buds
i discard the large fan leaves by hand and then quickly trim up the sugar leaf
i leave the bud on the stem in sections of about 1-2ft and just hang them
in the winter the weed could take forever to dry so i tend to trim closer and cut it from the branch sooner
i think climate is one reason why everyone has a different style
a side by side test would be awsome!
its amazing how much you can effect the color,smell and taste of the plant after its cut

your idea to veg under the t5 is a good one, esp if you plan on taking cuts
a little stretch lets you sink the node deeper into the rooting medium

rain or shine, im so looking foreward to this weekend

[Fiddynut]

Originally Posted by pop_rocks

im very lucky that my girls parents are pretty cool
on the surface they are very different me, but they are easy to get along with and really good people

you are right about using different trimming techniques at different times of year
in the summer,i want to slow the process so i jsut rough out the buds
i discard the large fan leaves by hand and then quickly trim up the sugar leaf
i leave the bud on the stem in sections of about 1-2ft and just hang them
in the winter the weed could take forever to dry so i tend to trim closer and cut it from the branch sooner
i think climate is one reason why everyone has a different style
a side by side test would be awsome!
its amazing how much you can effect the color,smell and taste of the plant after its cut

your idea to veg under the t5 is a good one, esp if you plan on taking cuts
a little stretch lets you sink the node deeper into the rooting medium

rain or shine, im so looking foreward to this weekend

Good afternoon pop_rocks.
You are lucky indeed. I'm pretty lucky myself and grateful about that. One of the guys I work with is always talking about how his wife doesn't get along with his mom and what a pain in the ass it is around the holidays. He has two kids who don't see their grandmother much because his wife refuses to interact. Life is too short for that kind of shit. I feel like I could get along with anyone for a few hours, especially if they were family or inlaws.

Using my loupe this morning I think I have identified 2 plants that are going to be girls. I can just barely see the start of tiny pistils on them. There are another 2 that I think are males but I'm going to give them a few more days to see that that's the case. One for sure had coconut shaped balls but it was harder to tell on the other. The other 4 have no preflowers or they are so tiny that I can't tell what they are. Seeing that some of them are starting to preflower has put my mind at ease since I know the rest will be close behind. Sexing by preflower is way different than sexing the autos I just grew. The autos had the classic balls that would show clearly at the nodes and were very easy to spot.

I'm looking forward to the weekend as well. The record highs in the 60's are gone but it's suppose to be in the 40's which is still pretty nice. Shit were lucky it's not 40 below zero since it's still February. It's been busy at work so I can't complain. I've been getting some longer morning walks with Rufus in and he is happy about that. Still have to air up the tires on the bicycle and give that a rip. Maybe this weekend.

[pop_rocks]

i would not rush tossing out the males
as long as your light cycle is like 18+hrs they wont flower so no harm in being certain
give them a little more time to make sure, they should start showing more robust pre flowers in teh next couple nodes
im in the same spot and am keeping a close eye on some young plants
a couple im on the fence about but am going to take cuts of everything
maybe i will try makeing some seeds if they turn out to be males

yeah man, 60' sounds nice!
its still winter but the weather has been pretty nice when its not raining
i guess the rain is not till this sunday now, so we will see about getting out this weekend
my nephew is going to be in town too, so i will be spending some time with him
just ahve to touch base and see when he is free

that sucks that your friend cant stand his in laws
like you said, life is too short to let others get you down
so im goign to amke some fried chicken this weekend
the other day i i made a nice white gravy and thoguth it would be great over some fried chicken breast and mashed potatoes
i did this gravy without any drippings so its kind of bland, i tihnk this weekend i will use chicken stock to give it some flavor
one more day to go brother!
cant wait for the end of the week

[Sunny FL Indica]

Morning all.

Well, walk-about went better than expected and the two remaining ladies were in great shape. I think giving them that extra time was key - they put on a ton of weight and that weather was perfect. I was a bit worried about the daylight lengthening but things worked out pretty well. Tri's are a bit more amber than I normally like, but it'll be a few weeks before they're ready to test. As for drying, I hang almost the entire plant, except for the very bottom fan leaves, upside down. If its humid, i'll leave a fan on in the room but on just a very, very gentle cycle, but that too depends on how smelly the girls are. If they're crazy loud then just gotta watch and be safe and hope they handle the humidity. Not a big fan of trimming either with the bad shoulder operating scissors for 6 hours isn't the #1 chore on my list of things to do.

Speaking of keeping a low profile, I've heard rumors that the po-po has some sort of heat differentiation device that they can basically tell a pot plant growing on the ground from 500 ft up in the air from regular plants / trees / etc. I'm considering running one of those autos as my next project, and would love to keep it in the back yard - but the last thing I need is the po-po showing up. Any thoughts from you guys? While I love the weather here, I don't trust this state govt farther than I can throw it and with my bad shoulder that means about 4 inches.

As for being blessed with those extra LW's, you can always bonzai the one's that you're not going to flower if you're short on space ... and then again, you can always do the prudent thing and get another tent :-). Not that you're this is a democracy, but I personally vote for you to buy one more tent, but I'm pretty sure your wallet is going to vote against it.

Hope Rufus is all healed up by now and the cone of shame can be hidden at the back of the closet. Those things are expensive (I paid like $60 for my doge's cone), so its not like you can just toss it out when they've healed up. Gotta keep that dog-gone-it thing.

[Fiddynut]

Originally Posted by pop_rocks

i would not rush tossing out the males
as long as your light cycle is like 18+hrs they wont flower so no harm in being certain
give them a little more time to make sure, they should start showing more robust pre flowers in teh next couple nodes
im in the same spot and am keeping a close eye on some young plants
a couple im on the fence about but am going to take cuts of everything
maybe i will try makeing some seeds if they turn out to be males

yeah man, 60' sounds nice!
its still winter but the weather has been pretty nice when its not raining
i guess the rain is not till this sunday now, so we will see about getting out this weekend
my nephew is going to be in town too, so i will be spending some time with him
just ahve to touch base and see when he is free

that sucks that your friend cant stand his in laws
like you said, life is too short to let others get you down
so im goign to amke some fried chicken this weekend
the other day i i made a nice white gravy and thoguth it would be great over some fried chicken breast and mashed potatoes
i did this gravy without any drippings so its kind of bland, i tihnk this weekend i will use chicken stock to give it some flavor
one more day to go brother!
cant wait for the end of the week

Good morning pop_rocks.
I'm trying not to rush but finding that I've miscalculated the timing for them to show sex. I should have used the next size up pot form the 8" I'm using now. However all my 10" pots were in use for the autos I was growing. I should have planned this better. They are getting that look of being droopy when they normally wouldn't need water. The post last night were getting dryish but just where I'd usually water them but they were already droopy looking under watered. I think this is because so many roots get in the air gap at the bottom and sides of the pot and as the soil drys and shrinks these parts dry first. I'm going to pot up in a few days when they dry out regardless of if I know if boys or girls. This droopy look means they are stressed and that isn't going to help them show sex any earlier. If I confirm that 2 are males I can probably have room for the 6 remaining to pot up and give a few more days to get happy again. Not going to top until they look happy again. They are all 12-14" tall and I wasn't going to let them get much taller before flipping to 12/12. I don't want to be over the hight limit after stretch like I was with the Larry's. I'm a bit disappointed in myself for making another mistake with transplant strategy and I hope the rootbound and drought stress dosent lead to hermies later in the grow. This is the first grow with nonfeminized regular seeds and it seems I still have a lot to learn. Going to correct this for the next grow for sure.

We got really spoiled with a few days in the 60's but it's been 40 or so and we had some crazy hard rain and thunder storms all night last night. Rainy and cool today with snow tonight and tomorrow. Still above average temps so can't complain. We got a nice taste of spring and I may be a month before we see temps that warm again. With spring almost here I'm able to get to the garden stores and stock up on supplies and more pots. They keep the soil outside on pallets and last time I tried to get some they were frozen solid to each other and I couldn't get the bags apart so I had to make due with the soil I had. I had just enough but don't like running low. I have to keep a few extra bags at home now during winter months so this dosent happen again.

I love fried chicken. It's not something I make often because I always make such a mess when making it. I like to soak pieces in buttermilk and then toss in seasoned flower and into the hot oil. So damn good! That white gravy sounds great (country gravy?). I make it for fried chicken and also for chicken fried steak which is another fav of mine. I make mine with chicken broth that I condense down so it's got a lot of flavor. Then it's just milk, garlic, onion and flower. I use the same recipe for biscuits and gravy and just add sausage to the gravy. Very southern style cooking.

I hope you have a nice time with your nephew this weekend. I hope you get a ride in and hope your chicken and gravy are great...Fiddy.

[Fiddynut]

Originally Posted by Sunny FL Indica

Morning all.

Well, walk-about went better than expected and the two remaining ladies were in great shape. I think giving them that extra time was key - they put on a ton of weight and that weather was perfect. I was a bit worried about the daylight lengthening but things worked out pretty well. Tri's are a bit more amber than I normally like, but it'll be a few weeks before they're ready to test. As for drying, I hang almost the entire plant, except for the very bottom fan leaves, upside down. If its humid, i'll leave a fan on in the room but on just a very, very gentle cycle, but that too depends on how smelly the girls are. If they're crazy loud then just gotta watch and be safe and hope they handle the humidity. Not a big fan of trimming either with the bad shoulder operating scissors for 6 hours isn't the #1 chore on my list of things to do.

Speaking of keeping a low profile, I've heard rumors that the po-po has some sort of heat differentiation device that they can basically tell a pot plant growing on the ground from 500 ft up in the air from regular plants / trees / etc. I'm considering running one of those autos as my next project, and would love to keep it in the back yard - but the last thing I need is the po-po showing up. Any thoughts from you guys? While I love the weather here, I don't trust this state govt farther than I can throw it and with my bad shoulder that means about 4 inches.

As for being blessed with those extra LW's, you can always bonzai the one's that you're not going to flower if you're short on space ... and then again, you can always do the prudent thing and get another tent :-). Not that you're this is a democracy, but I personally vote for you to buy one more tent, but I'm pretty sure your wallet is going to vote against it.

Hope Rufus is all healed up by now and the cone of shame can be hidden at the back of the closet. Those things are expensive (I paid like $60 for my doge's cone), so its not like you can just toss it out when they've healed up. Gotta keep that dog-gone-it thing.

Good afternoon Sunny.
Glad to here that your plants did well. Sounds like you timed it well. More amber trichomes make for nice relaxing buzz and that seems to be to your liking. Do they reveg if the days get to long outside. I've herd of re veging inside but not outdoors but I guess they would. Trimming is kind of a pain. My first couple grows I was so excited that I was looking forward to every stage including trimming but the last couple I don't really look forward to it anymore. Just more work to be done. I can see why the cash croppers have automatic trimming machines though I've herd that you still need to do touch up by hand.

As far as keeping a low profile my intuition says you would probably be ok with a plant or two. From what I've read the air searches can see plots of many plants but would be unlikely to see one or two. I think they also concentrate on arias where they think there are large numbers of plants being grown. It's very expensive to fly around looking for plants and they try to do it in arias where they think they would have the most impact. I think cannabis has a unique green color and that may be what they look for. The autos I grew have a darker color than the photo plants I've grown so that may help disguise them even more.

I will be adding a mother/clone tent sometime soon. I want to have a nice successful hermie free grow before I add anything else. More important to have the environments that I allready have dialed in before adding new environments. Once I'm confident that I have thinkpgs under control then I won't hesitate to add tent and lights. I've seen threads on bonsai mothers and I think I could learn how to do that but it will take some practice.

Rufus is glad to be done with the cone and seems not to be bothered by his foot. He still has a couple days of antibiotics to go but we quit using the cone yesterday and he was fine last night without it. We've had the cone for a couple years ever since he had an operation to remove a foreign object from his intestine. He had gotten ahold of a bath towel that had been soaked with bbq pork juice. He usually doesn't eat things he's not suppose to but I guess he just couldn't resist. It was scary because he had quit eating and nothing was showing up on X-ray or ultrasound so they recommended exploratory surgery.

I hope your drying and trimming go well and you are rewarded with some great buds. Have a great weekend...Fiddy.

[Rodehazrd]

Hey guys
I been down with a stomach issue but ha e been lurking some. My battle is gaining weight right now I'm up to 165 but at 6'3" I'm still a scarecrow.
On the subject of aerial surveillance cannabis has a unique infrared signature and can easily be spotted with a camera.
Landsat can diagnose corn deficiency from 150 miles up. So a helicopter at 500 no problem. Although thats not legal surveillance when did that matter.
@pop. I agree on trim humidity dictates the method change it often to suit your needs.
Oh well back to the porcelain for now.
Rodehazrd

[Sunny FL Indica]

@rode. I've also heard that there's that unique "signature" to cannabis, and that's what i'm worried about. On walk-about, there's no way there going to put a posse out on finding 1 plant in the middle of nowhere (and I mean the middle of nowhere. If anybody wants to have fun, lookup the Ocala national forest. I swear I hear banjo's playing the theme from Deliverance every time I'm there). But, in a highly populated area where the po-po fly around on other missions, I'm a bit worried they may pop-off if they see something that they don't think looks right.

@fiddy - I can't blame rufus for eating that towel - sounds like something I would do ... lol. Anyway, great to know your vet is pro-active enough to do an exploratory surgery. My college room-mate had his doge pass away because he ate a tennis ball. The vet took a look and said no issues, come back in a week if he's still feeling crappy - well, 3 days later we ended up taking him to the emergency clinic where they did the operation but it wasn't soon enough and the doge passed away. He was a beautiful Malamute with these grey colored eyes (technically, blue, but the blue was such an amazing color they appeared grey). Ugg, tearing up just thinking about it. As for the day lengthening, yup, you hit the nail on the head. If they get too much light they'll go back into veg. Not that i have a problem harvesting a 16 foot monster of a plant, but I try to set things up so as to not have to purchase weed and just harvest my own. I share with some friends, but I don't want to lose out on a harvest. As I said upthread, I'm happy with harvesting 1 of the 4 I put out into the woods. Knock-On-Wood that I've had good success and kept myself supplied enough. I will never, EVER go back on opiods, as weed works just so damn good for knocking out the pain and letting me sleep. Since i detoxed off them opiods I've always had enough in my mason jars to keep me set. Anyway, yeah, I gotta watch out when I'm putting the ladies out. Most of the year i'm pretty good, but if put out in May or June, a 6/7 week plant becomes an 11/12 week plant, and since summer is rainy season here, bud rot can be a problem. Blue dream is a great plant to put out in October or November - but hot damn, don't put that plant out on walk-about in May.

@pop - btw - not sure if you have any xanthum gum around, but that will also help thicken your gravy. I'm not doing the carbs so I can't have but hot damn I love me some of that chicken ... sounds delicious.

@rode - 6' 3" and 165. Holy crap, you're all skin and bones. you should be suckin down pepsi and eating as many chocolates as you can ... lol - i can only wish.

Speaking of food, going to do a huge spread for Fat Tuesday. I LOVE a good crawfish boil - and man, am I gonna eat on Tuesday night. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Fiddynut]

Originally Posted by Rodehazrd

Hey guys
I been down with a stomach issue but ha e been lurking some. My battle is gaining weight right now I'm up to 165 but at 6'3" I'm still a scarecrow.
On the subject of aerial surveillance cannabis has a unique infrared signature and can easily be spotted with a camera.
Landsat can diagnose corn deficiency from 150 miles up. So a helicopter at 500 no problem. Although thats not legal surveillance when did that matter.
@pop. I agree on trim humidity dictates the method change it often to suit your needs.
Oh well back to the porcelain for now.
Rodehazrd

Good morning Rodehazrd.
I'm glad to hear you are ok and it's nice to see you posting. I always worry about people who have our hobby when I don't see them posting. You always add something good to our conversations. This thread is a better place with you adding your wisdom and knowledge. Sorry to here you are under the weather. There has been a lot of flu going around. At your hight and weight it sounds like you have the opposite issue than a couple of us more round people. I was super skinny my whole childhood and into my later 20's until a bike accident slowed me and my metabolism down. I could eat anything I wanted and not ever gain a pound. Now I still eat what I want but that might have to change unless I want to be more and more overweight. Gotta find a balance. I hope you start feeling better and start putting on some pounds.

That is very interesting about the aerial surveillance. Cameras and inferred have come a long way haven't they. It makes good sense that you could use something like that for corn. We can look at our few plants pretty easy but just try to look at a corn field good luck. I wonder if corn farmers will eventually have drones that they use to look at crops from above and detect deficiencies or pest infestations. Pretty cool but not if they are using it to track us growers down.

Get some chicken soup in you and start feeling better bud...Fiddy.

[Fiddynut]

Originally Posted by Sunny FL Indica

@rode. I've also heard that there's that unique "signature" to cannabis, and that's what i'm worried about. On walk-about, there's no way there going to put a posse out on finding 1 plant in the middle of nowhere (and I mean the middle of nowhere. If anybody wants to have fun, lookup the Ocala national forest. I swear I hear banjo's playing the theme from Deliverance every time I'm there). But, in a highly populated area where the po-po fly around on other missions, I'm a bit worried they may pop-off if they see something that they don't think looks right.

@fiddy - I can't blame rufus for eating that towel - sounds like something I would do ... lol. Anyway, great to know your vet is pro-active enough to do an exploratory surgery. My college room-mate had his doge pass away because he ate a tennis ball. The vet took a look and said no issues, come back in a week if he's still feeling crappy - well, 3 days later we ended up taking him to the emergency clinic where they did the operation but it wasn't soon enough and the doge passed away. He was a beautiful Malamute with these grey colored eyes (technically, blue, but the blue was such an amazing color they appeared grey). Ugg, tearing up just thinking about it. As for the day lengthening, yup, you hit the nail on the head. If they get too much light they'll go back into veg. Not that i have a problem harvesting a 16 foot monster of a plant, but I try to set things up so as to not have to purchase weed and just harvest my own. I share with some friends, but I don't want to lose out on a harvest. As I said upthread, I'm happy with harvesting 1 of the 4 I put out into the woods. Knock-On-Wood that I've had good success and kept myself supplied enough. I will never, EVER go back on opiods, as weed works just so damn good for knocking out the pain and letting me sleep. Since i detoxed off them opiods I've always had enough in my mason jars to keep me set. Anyway, yeah, I gotta watch out when I'm putting the ladies out. Most of the year i'm pretty good, but if put out in May or June, a 6/7 week plant becomes an 11/12 week plant, and since summer is rainy season here, bud rot can be a problem. Blue dream is a great plant to put out in October or November - but hot damn, don't put that plant out on walk-about in May.

@pop - btw - not sure if you have any xanthum gum around, but that will also help thicken your gravy. I'm not doing the carbs so I can't have but hot damn I love me some of that chicken ... sounds delicious.

@rode - 6' 3" and 165. Holy crap, you're all skin and bones. you should be suckin down pepsi and eating as many chocolates as you can ... lol - i can only wish.

Speaking of food, going to do a huge spread for Fat Tuesday. I LOVE a good crawfish boil - and man, am I gonna eat on Tuesday night. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Good morning Sunny.
With all the technology these days I guess everything is risky. I'm thinking that the autos would be good for your gorilla grow in the parks. They finish on time predictably and are very hardy. You could just come back at day 60 and they should be ready. The longer days of summer won't cause them to veg longer and if anything they will be bigger from all that sun light. If you went from seed you could visit them after 3 weeks and pull the males and leave the rest until day 60. I'm going to try a few somewhere outside this summer and see how it goes.

That is too bad about your buddies dog. Our bond with dogs is so strong they quickly become family. We are lucky to have a good vet. Being a vet has to be a very hard job and it must take some intuition to be a good one. Since they can't tell us what is wrong or how that feel we can only judge by symptoms. As owners all we can do is be perceptive and try to watch out for them.

I'm with you on avoiding opioids. They are really putting a hurt on the country's kids right now. Lots of young people I work with start out taking a buddy's oxy's and end up throwing their life away on smack. Not good for the body either. I've read that they can lower pain tolerance over time making you hurt even more. My wife is one of the only people I know that can have a bottle of Vicodin and it will last her months. She will take one and not again for weeks. I don't have that kind of will power.

Sounds like you have a nice feast planned for Tuesday. My wife has family in costal Alabama and they eat all kinds of shrimp, crawfish, oysters and clams and such. I grew up 1000 miles from the nearest ocean so never got a taste for seafood but I'm sure it's great. Have a great weekend and enjoy that crawfish boil....Fiddy.