[Fiddynut]

Originally Posted by pop_rocks

yeah a small clone area dosent have to be anything elaborate
a simple florescent bulb and a humidity dome is really all you need
it dosent even have to be a tent, you could just throw some tarp over a small table and attach the light underneath

it sounds like you have a good selection of seed tho so you could go either way
there are pros and cons to growing from seed v clones
im just glad you tried taking cuts and now know you can do it!

that wookie looks beautiful!
nice structure and fat leaves
if this is average, you are doing quite well, my friend!

i am a big fan of novelty when it comes to weed
give me the fun colors and interesting flavors any day
just like with food, i think we appreciate the weed with our eyes
im also a big fan of flavor
if it was strictly about getting knock out stoned, we would all be smoke hash anyways
/that or eating brownies
but i enjoy smoking it and appreciate the differences we can find

thats good to hear you and rufus have been getting out lately
60' sounds great!
some days you can totally smell spring in the air
im not going to complain too much about the rain,we sure need it
im just sorry its causing so many problems across the state

thanks for the compliment btw, i notice you express yourself very well in writing too
have you taken any classes or do you write down your thoughts often
heck, maybe you jsut are having fun banging on the keyboard!

Good morning pop_rocks.
Your right the dome can go anywhere. My buddy has a single bulb florescent he just rests on top of the dome and it just sits in his spare bedroom on a table. It's more the space for the moms that I don't have right now. I'd be glad to add another tent down the road once I get some things figured out and grow some plants that don't herm on me. Since I'm looking for variety right now I just need to pop some packs of seeds and enjoy keeping it simple and learning more about how to get good things from the girls. I think that even if I had a couple good mothers I'd still want to run from seed every other cycle for the variety. I'd be keeping the moms for a long time and would need more space for that. I've seen some threads on how to keep mothers small but it would take me some time and space to learn. I may want to keep a couple of each so that if I make a mistake, say root pruning or something, that I could have a backup. I think another 2x4 tent would give me plenty of space for that. I'm glad I took cuts last time and now know the process and what to expect. It's something I'll get back to in due time.

I'm digging how the wookies are looking for sure. They seem quite happy. I'd say they are off to the best start that any of my photoperiod plants have been. The growth the last few days has been really aggressive. They are going to be fun to watch. No males yet but I keep my eyes open. Just have to be patient and let nature do it's thing.

You are right that we eat with out eyes first and it makes sense that we judge weed by color and other visual cues. Bag appeal is important. Shape and size of nugs make a difference too. Then there's the scent. When you get a strong whiff before even taking the bag out of your pocket you know your in for a treat. The real test is that first green hit. When that blend of familiar and new flavors hit you from a new strain it can be such a pleasure. I've been reading up on terpenoids and how they affect the buzz and the potency of cannabis. Very interesting that the flavors can enhance the high by helping open receptors in nerves. I've got some predispositions and love the skunky varieties but love a new flavors as well. I wonder if the terps make as much of a difference with edibles. I would bet they still make some difference but not as much as when you smoke or vape.

The nice weather is here but I'm coming down with a cold. I don't really feel that sick but my nose won't stop running. And to make it worse Rufus split a toe nail and it got infected. The vet had to take the whole nail off and now he is on antibiotics and has to have the "cone" on his head when not supervised so he won't lick and chew it. I think he has to take it easy for a few days so we won't to get to do a lot of walking. Poor buddy. I had a nice long run of not getting sick this winter when all my coworkers and friends and family were getting sick but I guess it's just my time. Not going to let it slow me down much though.

Actually writing has always been a week point of mine. Bad handwriting and spelling my whole life. And I'm super slow at typing on a keyboard. Strange I've always been an above average reeder but way below average speller. You'd think they would be more related to each other. This is the first forum I've been on so I haven't done much writing since collage 20 years ago. I have a dry and sometimes sarcastic sense of humor and that is hard to convey in writing. You just seem to have a way of putting things so that both the literal and figurative meaning comes across.

I hope the rain clears and you get some of that nice SoCal weather back. Spring has sprung and I'm ready. Have a great weekend...Fiddy.

[Sunny FL Indica]

Mornin gents.

@fiddy - sorry to hear about the cold. Bunch of peeps that I was out in Vegas with actually came down with the flu - 90% of the crew did. I escaped it - but, I was the only one to have gotten a flu shot. Not saying that prevented it, but damn, only 1 to have the shot and only 1 of the 10 of us not to get the flu. Even heard that a few of the school districts closed out in Vegas because so many kids out sick.

As for puttin on the lbs - good eatin will do that ya. I've been battling the bulge for years. About 15 years ago I got on the atkins / low carb diet, and went from 250 down to 180. Most expensive diet i was ever on, as i had to buy new clothes as nothing fit me. As life would have it, I got back to 250 right before the accident, then went down to 180 again. Funny, when your jaw is wired shut and you can't eat anything other than yogurt, damn, those lbs come off quickly. Anyway, this last fall I went to the doc for the annual checkup ( I HATE getting stinky pinky to check on the prostrate - ugg), anyway, I was up - this time to 280. Holy crapola. Anyway, I went back on Low Carb - i guess its called Keto now. I'm down to 240 eatin meat, meat, and more meat. Did i say I'm eating a ton of bacon???? Anyway, besides exercise, following the Keto diet is just amazing. The lbs just melt off.

@pop - Just like you, I absolutely love the novelty of good weed. My absolute favorite, in terms of flavor, was a cotton candy (or kotton kandy, depending on who you ask). I'll be damned, but it was the sweetest smoke I've ever tasted. It wasn't the best high (too psycho for me), but taste wise, just wow. It put to shame everything i had before, and everything I've had since, thought I did have a few good tokes of some grapefruit weed a while back. I think part of the reason (heck a huge reason) why us pollen chuckers are into this is the novelty. Playing the genetic lottery so to speak. Now, I play powerball all the time (my wife would say too much - but heck, it's just a dollar and a dream), but that's part of what this is about. I look at GG#4 and just think - damn, that was nothing but an experiment and now, fuck, the greatest weed in the world. I don't know if i'll ever hit the jackpot, but you gotta be in it to win it.

@everybody else - have a great weekend. It's time to go on walk-about and harvest this weekend. I'm off to never, never land. We've had some great (heck unbelievable) weather these last few weeks. Virtually no rain and sunny most of the time. The girls should be ready to be trimmed down and hung up.

Oh - i'm pretty sure i'm going to take the plunge and try some autos in the garden, especially if the smell isn't too loud. I have the perfect spot right back towards the fence where there's some bushes that i can probably sneak a few in and nobody would know.

[pop_rocks]

dude, that sucks about rufus!
infections are serious stuff
give him plenty of treats and he will be just fine

mark twain once said "i have no respect for a many who can only spell a word one way"
im more about the ideas and spirit of the message, who cares about a couple mistakes
especially in casual conversation
mrs chicky and i also read a lot
/she is actually one of the most voracious readers ive ever met
the girl is just crazy about books

ya, clones done take up much room but keeping mothers does require some space
and i agree that is fun to sift through seeds!
i used to pretty much only grow from clones, but after some thigns went down, i realised i can not always rely on having access
seeds are small and you can always start fresh

and like sunny said, its fun to play the genetic lottery!
who knows what you will find in that next sprout

you guys have a great weekend too!

[Fiddynut]

Originally Posted by Sunny FL Indica

Mornin gents.

@fiddy - sorry to hear about the cold. Bunch of peeps that I was out in Vegas with actually came down with the flu - 90% of the crew did. I escaped it - but, I was the only one to have gotten a flu shot. Not saying that prevented it, but damn, only 1 to have the shot and only 1 of the 10 of us not to get the flu. Even heard that a few of the school districts closed out in Vegas because so many kids out sick.

As for puttin on the lbs - good eatin will do that ya. I've been battling the bulge for years. About 15 years ago I got on the atkins / low carb diet, and went from 250 down to 180. Most expensive diet i was ever on, as i had to buy new clothes as nothing fit me. As life would have it, I got back to 250 right before the accident, then went down to 180 again. Funny, when your jaw is wired shut and you can't eat anything other than yogurt, damn, those lbs come off quickly. Anyway, this last fall I went to the doc for the annual checkup ( I HATE getting stinky pinky to check on the prostrate - ugg), anyway, I was up - this time to 280. Holy crapola. Anyway, I went back on Low Carb - i guess its called Keto now. I'm down to 240 eatin meat, meat, and more meat. Did i say I'm eating a ton of bacon???? Anyway, besides exercise, following the Keto diet is just amazing. The lbs just melt off.

@pop - Just like you, I absolutely love the novelty of good weed. My absolute favorite, in terms of flavor, was a cotton candy (or kotton kandy, depending on who you ask). I'll be damned, but it was the sweetest smoke I've ever tasted. It wasn't the best high (too psycho for me), but taste wise, just wow. It put to shame everything i had before, and everything I've had since, thought I did have a few good tokes of some grapefruit weed a while back. I think part of the reason (heck a huge reason) why us pollen chuckers are into this is the novelty. Playing the genetic lottery so to speak. Now, I play powerball all the time (my wife would say too much - but heck, it's just a dollar and a dream), but that's part of what this is about. I look at GG#4 and just think - damn, that was nothing but an experiment and now, fuck, the greatest weed in the world. I don't know if i'll ever hit the jackpot, but you gotta be in it to win it.

@everybody else - have a great weekend. It's time to go on walk-about and harvest this weekend. I'm off to never, never land. We've had some great (heck unbelievable) weather these last few weeks. Virtually no rain and sunny most of the time. The girls should be ready to be trimmed down and hung up.

Oh - i'm pretty sure i'm going to take the plunge and try some autos in the garden, especially if the smell isn't too loud. I have the perfect spot right back towards the fence where there's some bushes that i can probably sneak a few in and nobody would know.

Good morning Sunny.
I'm not going to let a little runny nose slow me down this weekend. It's been in the 60's and Spring is in the air. I've managed to avoid the colds and flu's all winter. I never felt very sick but the nose has stopped running so the rest of the weekend is looking great. Sounds like the flu shot was a good idea for you. I wonder how many of your buddies got sick from the crappy air on the plane.

My brother is on the low carb high fiber fat meat diet. Im thinking about giving it a try. For the Super Bowl I made a rib roast and instead of mashed potatoes I made a cauliflower purée that was low carb but great. Lots of cream and butter and tasted a lot like mashed potatoes. It was easy to make too. I don't eat much sweet stuff so I'm already low carb on that I just need to cut out some of the bread and potatoes and other carbs. If I lost 20 or so pounds I'd be way better off.

Glad to hear that you are getting nice weather. I hope your plants are loving it and getting fat. It's time for me to get outside and put some miles on the bike.

[Fiddynut]

Originally Posted by pop_rocks

dude, that sucks about rufus!
infections are serious stuff
give him plenty of treats and he will be just fine

mark twain once said "i have no respect for a many who can only spell a word one way"
im more about the ideas and spirit of the message, who cares about a couple mistakes
especially in casual conversation
mrs chicky and i also read a lot
/she is actually one of the most voracious readers ive ever met
the girl is just crazy about books

ya, clones done take up much room but keeping mothers does require some space
and i agree that is fun to sift through seeds!
i used to pretty much only grow from clones, but after some thigns went down, i realised i can not always rely on having access
seeds are small and you can always start fresh

and like sunny said, its fun to play the genetic lottery!
who knows what you will find in that next sprout

you guys have a great weekend too!

Good morning pop_rocks.
Rufus is doing well just too bad he can't do a lot of walking since we are getting such good weather. He is getting difficult to give pills to though. Something about the antibiotic capsule he doesn't like and I'm having to use cheese and peanut butter to get him tricked into taking them. And he hated the cone we have to put on him when not supervised.

Mark twain has a lot of great advise. I don't read as much as I'd like to but trying to find more time for it. There is just something so great about a good story. Better than a movie any day. Good authors have that way of expressing the spirit of the message like you say.

The autos that got chopped on Wednesday are going to be ready for dry trim and jars tonight so I'm going to have some work to do. It's good timing so I'll have tomorrow off of work to open the jars and get the moisture right. I'm going to ride the motorcycle with some friends today. I should have time to air up the tires on the trek tomorrow and do a couple rides around the neighborhood.

Time for me to get outside and enjoy some sunny beautiful weather. I hope your weekend is going great...Fiddy.

[pop_rocks]

im glad to hear rufus is on the mend
ive used the cheese trick myself when ukie had to take her medicine

which autos came down last week?
im interested in throwing some autos in the mix and am just waiting for the weather to get right
so how did they look at harvest?
i like giving the plants a really good looking at once ive cut them
this is when you can turn them and look at them from every angle
the more of the plant you can see the more they will tell you

hope you had a great ride!
a buddy smoked some ham and sausage yesterday so the whole fam went over
mrs chickys mom is in town and my mom even showed up
after everyone left, i hung around and we got to spend time just handing out
hes a great cook and an even better friend!

im going to have to get back into being more active but im enjoying these last few days of still being in holiday mode!

cant wait ot hear the post harvest report

[Fiddynut]

Originally Posted by pop_rocks

im glad to hear rufus is on the mend
ive used the cheese trick myself when ukie had to take her medicine

which autos came down last week?
im interested in throwing some autos in the mix and am just waiting for the weather to get right
so how did they look at harvest?
i like giving the plants a really good looking at once ive cut them
this is when you can turn them and look at them from every angle
the more of the plant you can see the more they will tell you

hope you had a great ride!
a buddy smoked some ham and sausage yesterday so the whole fam went over
mrs chickys mom is in town and my mom even showed up
after everyone left, i hung around and we got to spend time just handing out
hes a great cook and an even better friend!

im going to have to get back into being more active but im enjoying these last few days of still being in holiday mode!

cant wait ot hear the post harvest report

Good afternoon pop_rocks.
Yep it's hard to keep Rufus down for long. He is dancing and prancing around like it never happened. Cheese and peanut butter works well with him unless he is on to the fact that you are trying to trick him into taking something. Then he is resistant. Either he hates the taste of it or he associates it with not feeling well.

I chopped all the autos on Wednesday and did the dry trim on Sunday night. I should have waited until Monday to do dry trim. It was really hard to trim because it's so sticky. I'm still getting the moisture to equalize so just going to have to wait a few more days to weigh it up and start sampling it. Got a great look and it's frosty and sticky. My sense of smell is still a little off from last weeks cold so not sure about how it's scent is changing.

Sounds like you guys had a great time on Sunday. It's nice to get the family's together and spend quality time. My family and inlaws get along well so we do a lot of birthday parties and holidays together. It's also nice when people start to disperse and you can get some extra time with your bud. Love some ham and smoked sausage.

I here you on getting more active. I did a lot of motorcycling over the weekend but harvest and chores on Monday plus dinner with my wife's mom kept me from getting on the mountain bike. Maybe during the week this week.

I hope your week is off to a good start...Fiddy.

[Fiddynut]

Greetings friends.
The LW's are doing good but I don't like the light coverage from the t5 covering two rows of four plants. The light is only wide enough to give food light to one side of the plant at a time. I also find the pots aren't drying out as quick as I'd like under the t5. I don't have a lot of air moving in that tent and it was taking 4+ days between watering.
Since the other tent is open I decided to pop the MH bulb in and veg under the 600w. I think this will work better. No males have shown yet and I'm starting to get nervous that they will not show before they get rootbound in the 8" pots. I'm starting to wonder if they are all girls. If so I'm in trouble since I have no space to flower all 8 plants. If this were the case I'd have to flower out the 4 best and keep the other 4 as mothers and grow them from cuttings next round. The seedlings came up about a month ago so I'd expected to see sex by now. They had a slow start the first couple weeks but have been growing well the last two weeks. Just a reminder that the plants have their own schedule and don't care what I had planed.

Nice fat dark green leaves on them. Stacking a lot of nodes very tight. Lots of side branching and lower growth.

[pop_rocks]

looking great fiddy!
they are nicely colored and reaching for the light
one thing you can try is rotate the plants a bit,say a quarter to half turn
this will help even out growth
nice move putting them under the brighter light
they will bush up and grow faster

thasts funny you mentioned trimming while wet
ive been doing it this way recently but used to let the plants dry a little before
one pro of wet trim is the glands are still supple so not as many are knocked off during handling
a plus to dry trimming is you can do it one your schedule and that the leaves can slow the drying process
i would like to hear form the others about their trimming technique
do you guys trim right away or wait a while?
what are the pros and cons of each?

so what if they do all turn out to be ladies?!?
8 plants is a lot in a 3x3 area

you currently are running two areas?
/1:600w, 1 florescent ; both in 3x3 spaces?
i would def flower out the four and put the other four on the back burner
i would also top the four not used to keep them smaller

yeah, its great when everyone can get together and have fun!
the moms are friends and had a lot of catching up to do
we ended up in the living room watching gymnastics (the girl is a gymnast) and sipping cold ones until mrs chicky had to leave (she had to work on monday)
then out came the strong smokey stuff

i hope we can get out on the bikes too but there is rain in the forecast for this weekend
if we dont ride we will at least go for a nice walk
time to get back outside!

[Fiddynut]

Originally Posted by pop_rocks

looking great fiddy!
they are nicely colored and reaching for the light
one thing you can try is rotate the plants a bit,say a quarter to half turn
this will help even out growth
nice move putting them under the brighter light
they will bush up and grow faster

thasts funny you mentioned trimming while wet
ive been doing it this way recently but used to let the plants dry a little before
one pro of wet trim is the glands are still supple so not as many are knocked off during handling
a plus to dry trimming is you can do it one your schedule and that the leaves can slow the drying process
i would like to hear form the others about their trimming technique
do you guys trim right away or wait a while?
what are the pros and cons of each?

so what if they do all turn out to be ladies?!?
8 plants is a lot in a 3x3 area

you currently are running two areas?
/1:600w, 1 florescent ; both in 3x3 spaces?
i would def flower out the four and put the other four on the back burner
i would also top the four not used to keep them smaller

yeah, its great when everyone can get together and have fun!
the moms are friends and had a lot of catching up to do
we ended up in the living room watching gymnastics (the girl is a gymnast) and sipping cold ones until mrs chicky had to leave (she had to work on monday)
then out came the strong smokey stuff

i hope we can get out on the bikes too but there is rain in the forecast for this weekend
if we dont ride we will at least go for a nice walk
time to get back outside!

Good afternoon pop_rocks.
I had been doing the rotation on them when under the t5 but I think they were at the point they could benefit from the more intense light now. I think the t5 is best when the plants are small and right under it. That probably means 4-5 veging plants for best results. I really want them to mature so I can get the males out of there. More light should quicken the process. I did my whole first run under that light and even as a first timer managed not to fry the seedlings. I'm thinking about a strategy where I use the 600w to do second half of veg every run which would free up space under the t5 for clones and a mother or two. I'm thinking that if I only use it for the last couple weeks of veg it won't slow down my cycles too much.

You bring up some great points on trimming. My first harvest I did a wet trim right at chop and a touch up trim when dry. The second harvest I was kind of pissed about the seeds so I just striped fans and hung the whole plants, then dry trim before going into jars. I like the slower dry time of hanging the whole plant but maybe not in summer when the humidity is higher and there are a lot more mold spores in the air. I will continue to experiment a bit but may have to trim differently at different times of the year. I do like the fact that a wet trim seems to loose less crystals and makes it less work when cutting the buds off the stem. Reading a lot of trimming threads on icmag it seems there are many opinions and as per usual one style works better for some and not others. I may even try a wet/dry side by side experiment on my next harvest.

I think if I end up with more than 5 lady's I will flower 4 out and keep the others in veg. When there is a month or so left in flower I'll take cuttings from whatever is in veg and pick the best of them to flower out on the next cycle. I've got space for that and I'd hate to waste what could be the best one in the pack. My flower tent is 3x3 and my veg tent is a 2x4.

That's great that the family's get along well. I know a lot of people who cringe at the idea of family gatherings because of fighting and bad attitudes. Many of those family's have heavy drinkers and that seems to be a contributing factor. My brothers daughter is into gymnastics as well. That seems like a great sport for kids, lots of exercise and stretching is great for the body. Doing the 12 oz curl with beer cans is pretty good exercise as well. Glad you guys got some puffing time in.

Time to get back outside is right. It's been upper 60's for a few days and we are getting spoiled. Back to the 40's for the rest of the week and weekend it looks like for us. I hope that the rain holds off for you guys and you get some riding in...Fiddy.