[Old Toker]

Hey BW....how's it going?

Not going to use soil this time....going to try 100% coco.
I have 130 gallons of organic soil in a couple of 65 gal trash cans. Dank Franks recipe is excellent. Probably going to use some of it in some SIP containers for my daughter to grow tomatoes and peppers. She needs something really easy that she can just water occasionally....when she remembers. May still do an inside soil grow in the future depending on how badly I screw this one up. Either way I WILL find a good use for that soil.

No grow thread. Haven't ever done that...yet. Think there is much interest in another newbies "first grow in coco" thread? As long as Ramsthepharoah doesn't mind I thought I'd just tag along with his grow.

Hope things are going well for you brother!

Originally Posted by back_woods

looks like your on your way again brother. you going to use dank franks soil mix again or doing something different. did you start a thread? i need to find it if so

[Old Toker]

Originally Posted by Ramsthepharoah

..I just ordered a 60x60x80. But I'll be flowering under a 600W HPS though. I bought 2 online fans one to cool the 600W so I can get a bit closer to the plants and one for venting out stale air and humidity...

Congrats on the new tent! I'm using one 8" fan and filter mounted outside the tent (above) and controlled by a variable speed controller. 8" is probably over kill for the size of our tents but it seems to run very quiet at the lowest setting and still pulls a lot of air out without much effort.
Post some more pics of your babies.

[Ramsthepharoah]

Originally Posted by Old Toker

Congrats on the new tent! I'm using one 8" fan and filter mounted outside the tent (above) and controlled by a variable speed controller. 8" is probably over kill for the size of our tents but it seems to run very quiet at the lowest setting and still pulls a lot of air out without much effort.
Post some more pics of your babies.

Sounds great!! The faster the air can be exchanged, the less likelihood of you having humidity issues. I will definitely post more pics. Right now it hasn't had much more growth. I shall post more pics Sunday though for sure. Is dank frank's mix similar to subcool's?? And if you've tried both; which do you prefer?? Right now I kind of make my own loosely based on subcool's mix. It works pretty well, but you have to prepare at least 30 days ahead.

[Old Toker]

Originally Posted by Ramsthepharoah

Is dank frank's mix similar to subcool's?? And if you've tried both; which do you prefer??

Sorry.....I haven't tried both. My Dank Frank's mixture recipe was given to me by another FL grower that helped me out when I first started, so I don't know the major differences. I also had to allow mine to cool for 30 days before use. So far everything I've planted in it seems to love it. Has done wonders for some of my wife's and daughter's house plants....and of course my outside Malawi.
Look forward to your pics. Re-read this thread last night. Seems as though you have quite a bit of experience with indoor growing.....just not sativas. Other than controlling their size....do you anticipate any other issues/hurdles? I'd say that if you are only growing two Malawis in that tent.....you should definitely have enough room for them to grow horizontally.
Good luck.

[Ramsthepharoah]

Originally Posted by Old Toker

Sorry.....I haven't tried both. My Dank Frank's mixture recipe was given to me by another FL grower that helped me out when I first started, so I don't know the major differences. I also had to allow mine to cool for 30 days before use. So far everything I've planted in it seems to love it. Has done wonders for some of my wife's and daughter's house plants....and of course my outside Malawi.
Look forward to your pics. Re-read this thread last night. Seems as though you have quite a bit of experience with indoor growing.....just not sativas. Other than controlling their size....do you anticipate any other issues/hurdles? I'd say that if you are only growing two Malawis in that tent.....you should definitely have enough room for them to grow horizontally.
Good luck.

Humidity late at night I can see that as a possible issue with the amount of plants. As long as your area is well ventilated and air is circulating you should be good. I bought a small dehumidifier to help out as well. I notice you get humidity spikes as the air cools and condenses when the lights go off. Be diligent with monitoring that, especially late in flower. I think you'll do great though!!!! I just hope I can say the same for myself... fingers crossed. My seedlings are growing very slowly with purple stems. I'm so tempted to give them a light foliage feeding. I'm going to wait it out though.

[Old Toker]

Originally Posted by Ramsthepharoah

Humidity late at night I can see that as a possible issue with the amount of plants.

I have a decent size dehumidifier which should handle the SE US humidity. My problem so far has been the opposite. At night the temps are dropping into the 40s/50s and I've been using a small electric heater in the lung room to get temps to 70+ degrees. Unfortunately the heater dries the air and the humidity is dropping below 65%. I have multiple litter pans full of water by the air intakes into the tent......but I may have to buy a cheap humidifier until the plants generate enough of their own humidity. I'm also somewhat concerned with how much the 860w will dry the room when I use it. Guess I'll tackle THAT issue if/when it becomes a problem.

Originally Posted by Ramsthepharoah

I think you'll do great though!!!! I just hope I can say the same for myself... fingers crossed.

I truly believe the Malawis are hard to kill. I should know. I did plenty wrong with mine and she still survived. I'm sure you'll be fine! But fingers are crossed just in case.

Originally Posted by Ramsthepharoah

My seedlings are growing very slowly with purple stems.

What light are you vegging under? I put mine under the LED last night for a couple of hours and the stems looked REALLY purple. When I put them back in the germinator (T-5)....they look green again.

Originally Posted by Ramsthepharoah

I'm so tempted to give them a light foliage feeding. I'm going to wait it out though.

At this stage I would think that you treat them like Indicas. Which you have experience and success with. Hang in there.....they'll be fine....and so will we.
Good Luck.

BTW. I transplanted 7 of the seedlings that are in Rapid Rooters into their 16oz cup temp homes. AND!!! The last Panama Haze finally germed and popped it's little head up.
FWIW - 100% germ rate on 4 difference strains of ACE Seeds.

[Ramsthepharoah]

Originally Posted by Old Toker

I have a decent size dehumidifier which should handle the SE US humidity. My problem so far has been the opposite. At night the temps are dropping into the 40s/50s and I've been using a small electric heater in the lung room to get temps to 70+ degrees. Unfortunately the heater dries the air and the humidity is dropping below 65%. I have multiple litter pans full of water by the air intakes into the tent......but I may have to buy a cheap humidifier until the plants generate enough of their own humidity. I'm also somewhat concerned with how much the 860w will dry the room when I use it. Guess I'll tackle THAT issue if/when it becomes a problem.

I truly believe the Malawis are hard to kill. I should know. I did plenty wrong with mine and she still survived. I'm sure you'll be fine! But fingers are crossed just in case.
What light are you vegging under? I put mine under the LED last night for a couple of hours and the stems looked REALLY purple. When I put them back in the germinator (T-5)....they look green again.
At this stage I would think that you treat them like Indicas. Which you have experience and success with. Hang in there.....they'll be fine....and so will we.
Good Luck.

BTW. I transplanted 7 of the seedlings that are in Rapid Rooters into their 16oz cup temp homes. AND!!! The last Panama Haze finally germed and popped it's little head up.
FWIW - 100% germ rate on 4 difference strains of ACE Seeds.

During Veg the Humidity is never really an issue, but when they start to flower and the leaves begin to touch each other and the girls grow to fill the room, the stomata begin to open up to release oxygen and respire; that's when the humidity spikes happen. I find in my setup it usually happens during flower and at night along with air condensation. I find it ironic that its dry during veg when I need higher humidity, but it's more humid during flower when I need less humidity!! Lol... oh well... I definitely need a dehumidifier!!

I certainly will hang I. There. Thanks for the well wishes!! Right now I'm currently vegging under a 150W HPS. I recently ordered a 600W MH so in about a 3-5 days they'll be going under that.

Im glad everything you germinated sprouted!! Looking forward to seeing your progress!! Here are my two little seedlings. They haven't shown me much above soil, but I hope it's because those roots are really getting going down below!!

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Originally Posted by Ramsthepharoah

I find it ironic that its dry during veg when I need higher humidity, but it's more humid during flower when I need less humidity!!

Yep.....I think we started late. Supposedly a lot of deep south indoor growers take a break from growing during the summer and wait until fall. Nice humid Oct/November during veg, and dryer Dec/Jan/Feb for flowering. I may do the same after this grow (if it's a success).

Looks like your girls are starting to develop their 3rd & 4th set of true leaves. My Malawis are about the same size but only one set of true leaves. Like yours, they seem to have paused their vertical growing to hopefully focus on their root development.

[Ramsthepharoah]

Originally Posted by Old Toker

Yep.....I think we started late. Supposedly a lot of deep south indoor growers take a break from growing during the summer and wait until fall. Nice humid Oct/November during veg, and dryer Dec/Jan/Feb for flowering. I may do the same after this grow (if it's a success).

Looks like your girls are starting to develop their 3rd & 4th set of true leaves. My Malawis are about the same size but only one set of true leaves. Like yours, they seem to have paused their vertical growing to hopefully focus on their root development.

I'm right along with you in terms of the Deep South. I'm in TX... but I just gotta keep growing. I'm not going to stop, I just have to make the necessary adjustments.

[Old Toker]

Hey RTP!! How are your Malawis doing?