[MountZionCollec]

My start is looking a little later then planned so I have changed spacing to 5' with ~300 plants.

[MountZionCollec]

First batch of germination yesterday

100 seeds of sleestack*skunk #1, AKA the Resinator/sleeskunk

100 seeds of Schnazzleberry #4, The Dom*Blockhead

I use the Tom hill germination method. Plant seeds in soil with temps between 81-85 degrees.

I am now leaning to doing 200 of the plants from seed and only 100 from clone.

[Teh_Baker]

Howdie neighbor, looks like you have a lot of work ahead of you. I grew some of rare darkness seeds last year. I was very impressed with the grape ox. Ill be hanging out in the rafterz.

[plantingplants]

Missed this. I like your style.

What happened to the no energy gh concept?

[MountZionCollec]

Originally Posted by plantingplants

Missed this. I like your style.

What happened to the no energy gh concept?

That would be a ~95% failure , I did get a yearly supply of gnarly looking pure sativa buds to smoke and gift to friends.

The humidity was too high in the fall and some of the strains with thicker buds molded. Many buds were up against the wet plastic getting burned by the heat.

I should have done a massive topping on the plants as they transitioned into flowering because they all just kept on growing and growing at insane rates. Also the plants were too close for there vigour.

Really though the final nail in the coffin was we had big winds come through, I can't remember when I believe beginning of November, and the winds got under neath the south side of the hoophouse and was slamming into the north side plastic from within. It eventually blew the north side out of the ground and for like 15 minutes I watched as the GH flapped in the wind like a cape. Then it started to bounce up and down as it flapped eventually collapsing on top of the plants. Luckily the plastic was off mostly at that point so the plants weren't destroyed they were all just bent in half.

[MountZionCollec]

Originally Posted by Teh_Baker

Howdie neighbor, looks like you have a lot of work ahead of you. I grew some of rare darkness seeds last year. I was very impressed with the grape ox. Ill be hanging out in the rafterz.

Thanks for following..are we neighbors within county or are u in a neighboring county?

What were the smells and effects of the grape Ox?

[MountZionCollec]

If there are any permitted calaveras farmers following make sure you become a member of CCA, Calaveras cannabis alliance. If you can't afford the full fee just send them an email and they can work something out.

The next 12 months will decide the fate of the next few seasons so we need all permitted legal farmers who want to stay that way to join up. The 3 banners on the board have taken a very aggressive approach to our industry over the past few months...getting worse as time goes on...but a fully comprehensive strategy has been developed to bring the fight to them with multiple planned lawsuits, a diverse community written regulation bill on ballot June 2018 that meets in the middle between the desires of farmers and the desire of nonfarmers, and then to take the legs out from underneath the banners by building a diverse block of community support across all districts and across all "divided lines", example democrats verse republicans doesn't divide our group in any way, we all get along ...Let's get ready for the fight!

[calaveras]

Calaveras cannabis alliance. A large portion of your members need a course on public relations. You big time farmers need to fit in with long time residents and not simply overpower with money and lawsuits. It is not a democrat or republican issue. It is about rude money obsessed people not caring about neighbors. Maybe it would be different if the scene was a bit more like Humboldt county where many generations have been growing and the industry built up slowly over decades. Calaveras county was small time farms until last years huge influx. People are pissed off with 5 supervisors deciding the fate of 35,000 people on such a life changing issue. The vote prop.B should have been allowed. Let the people vote. All it takes in California to shut down a vote is one guy with money and a sleazy attorney needing money. If you want community support reach out to the community and clean up your act CCA members. It is not enough to donate some money or a car. CCA must police their own members. Fabric fences and homeless shelter looking grow sites only enforce the poor image of highly visible grows.This being said as a response to Mt. Zion who seems to be a person who is doing it right and farms food also, not just cash crops.
CCA , you are fighting the wrong people, long time residents of Calaveras. The problems you have are all self-inflicted. Weed out the asshole farmers and fit in, it is a great place to live here

[MountZionCollec]

Originally Posted by calaveras

Calaveras cannabis alliance. A large portion of your members need a course on public relations. You big time farmers need to fit in with long time residents and not simply overpower with money and lawsuits. It is not a democrat or republican issue. It is about rude money obsessed people not caring about neighbors. Maybe it would be different if the scene was a bit more like Humboldt county where many generations have been growing and the industry built up slowly over decades. Calaveras county was small time farms until last years huge influx. People are pissed off with 5 supervisors deciding the fate of 35,000 people on such a life changing issue. The vote prop.B should have been allowed. Let the people vote. All it takes in California to shut down a vote is one guy with money and a sleazy attorney needing money. If you want community support reach out to the community and clean up your act CCA members. It is not enough to donate some money or a car. CCA must police their own members. Fabric fences and homeless shelter looking grow sites only enforce the poor image of highly visible grows.This being said as a response to Mt. Zion who seems to be a person who is doing it right and farms food also, not just cash crops.
CCA , you are fighting the wrong people, long time residents of Calaveras. The problems you have are all self-inflicted. Weed out the asshole farmers and fit in, it is a great place to live here

Are you a permitted grower? throwing stones at the moving ship only makes dents but it won't change its course. If you care and your permitted then join up to make a difference. There 1500+ illegal farmers in Calaveras county, only 500 permitted grows now that they've denied close to 200 people. CCA only has 100 farm members.

Do You consider 9000 square feet to be a big time farmer? I'm curious what you consider to be a medium sized farmer? How about a small farmer? The next few years are going to be Wakeup for many on what a big farmer actually is when the 4 acre greenhouse grows are up and running popping out $400 pounds. That's a big time farmer. 22k square feet? Medium size farmer in my opinion. I consider myself a large small farmer or a small medium sized farmer.

I 100% agree many cannabis farmers, both permitted and unpermitted need to learn some common decency and proper neighbor relationships. And many are greedy only caring for there own survival, that is how most humans are so makes sense many farmers would be the same. from my personal experience the unpermitted grows are causing more harm on this front then the permitted ones. And the non CCA members more harm then the CCA ones.

I 100% agree with focusing on community relations and "fitting in" or weaving ourselves into the community. I have been in heated debates with Cas on this topic for the past 13 months. Much of the 'feeling' of your complaints I have been feeling "similar" over the past year and I have been in heated debates with the former director on many occasions.

Over the past few months CCA has been transitioning greatly, they have just changed directors this past week to Trevor who is a local who has lived here his whole life. The strategy of the past 1.5 years of CCA is changing significantly and because of the new strategy I finally decided to Join CCA officially and pay my dues this past week. I will be running for a CCA board seat in the election in a couple weeks.

The number one focus is on "fitting into the community" now. We are volunteering and joining almost every organization in the county across most of the areas. And proper neighbor relations is more then common amongst CCA members.

The republican/democrat comment was simply an EXAMPLE of one division line in society that DOESNT need to divide our community. Some in the cannabis community forget that, some of the influx was from more left leaning politics and with trump in office they are so scared they sometimes view conservatives or republicans as the enemy....not all do but enough have that I feel the need to say it...while many residents in the county lean conservative...we did elect trump. Some members of the community need to be reminded republicans aren't the enemies that's all. We need NO division here...example locals verse non locals...small farmers verse big farmers...dispensaries verse growers...NO division is acceptable. We need all hands on deck because dividing and conquering ourselves is sinking our own ship.

The cause of the problem is not what you say it is...that's the "symptom" of the problem the greedy neighbors. If the county had better regulations that answered more of the concerns of the non growing locals, and if they regulated and taxes enough permitted grows the county could build up its police force and actually enforce basic law and order. There is no law and order, therefore greedy growers act without fear of the law. There is a vacuum the shit heads will fill.


The people will have a chance to vote on regulation bill June 2018.

A dispensary owner shut down measure B, not CCA. Measure B was illegal in many aspects. Also the BOS said very clearly they would pass there own ban even if measure B failed.

for every permitted farmer, there are 2 illegal farmers.

For every CCA member farm, there are 4 permitted farms that didn't join up. CCA is policing its members as much as they can at present, we only have 100 farms the majority of are very professional and assets to the community. I don't think it's fair to blame a group of 100 farmers for the action of 400-1900 nonmembers.

[MountZionCollec]

It will need to be the sheriffs-planning and code enforcements job to weed out the shit heads...only going to happen with proper regulations which CCA is involved in developing........I do agree this is a great place to live....I plan on dying here.