[MountZionCollec]

https://www.davewilson.com:8080/home-gardens

Persimmon have really low chill hours, but are hardy to zone 7. I haven't researched them very much but I'm sure some varieties would grow here. Depends on when they bloom, the cold would be fine, but if they bloom earlier then before early-mid April they would get too beat up in late spring weather at my location which can be pretty wet-windy-cold-snow. I'm a little over 4000 above sea level, but I'm still in Zone 8b-9 with low temperatures only reaching in the 20s, very rarely dipping below 25 degrees . We're on South facing hill at least 1000 feet higher then the hills on the south side extending 7 miles before hitting a taller mountain, this keeps the cold wet forest climate out, night and day difference in the climate on the north side of the hill with many comparably tall mountains in a bowl of shaded forest.

In the future we'll have more infrastructure to store seeds, most likely once we put in a large root cellar hopefully this winter as long as I have a successful year. I won't starting saving my vegetable seeds for another couple years as there is too much I want to try while so much is available.

We have been juggling a whole lot of activities it's been fun now that I'm starting to know what I'm doing and since I've cut lose the experiments that proved not to suit me! ive had to learn my lesson though more then a few times...for example the sheep! But we gave them away to a local family who has livestock and were wanting some Icelandic but couldn't afford them. We gave them the two parents and two babies, and the mom had 3 more babies! Would have been a nightmare with 7 sheep on my land eating up everything.

[Limeygreen]

Prairie Star and Prairie Sun are supposed to be good American persimmons, I have the Prairie Star in my yard only got it last year as bare root, took until july to break bud first year, no broken buds yet but doesn't look like winter kill either.

[EastBayGrower]

uhh did i read that right? 9000 sqft AWESOME!!!!

i was checking out the new google earth 3d and calavaras i blown up!

i'llbe joining the fun up in goldcountry thisyear

[MountZionCollec]

Originally Posted by Limeygreen

Prairie Star and Prairie Sun are supposed to be good American persimmons, I have the Prairie Star in my yard only got it last year as bare root, took until july to break bud first year, no broken buds yet but doesn't look like winter kill either.

I've never eaten a persimmon and what little I have read about them it didn't really spark a desire to plant any this year....however my wife has mentioned she may want to plant some in the future.

Have you eaten any before and if so could you describe it? For some don't they need to be "cured" or whatever they call it where they need some time after being harvest before they ready to be eaten?

That is really amazing it breaks bud so late! The majority of my trees have broke leaves and buds starting around May 1st.

[MountZionCollec]

Originally Posted by EastBayGrower

uhh did i read that right? 9000 sqft AWESOME!!!!

i was checking out the new google earth 3d and calavaras i blown up!

i'llbe joining the fun up in goldcountry thisyear

Yup 9000' in total on 3 different locations on the same property. We were inspected by code enforcement recently for our permit and the inspection went very well. We need to make some changes but nothing too crazy!

They are attempting to ban it in my county right now. 3 supervisors are set on it, it won't go into law until November or December so we will just get to finish the season and then who knows what will happen.

The calaveras cannabis alliance (CCA) plus a large tent group of local community people are writing a sensible and strict regulation iniative to put before the people either this fall or next June. I think it'll JUST pass.

There going to increase acres need to grow and change the zones allowed to be grown in. The locals want it out of the residential areas, even the ones who support cannabis.

[MountZionCollec]

I took 6 soil samples to determine how to amend my soil. All the areas were different last year but after amending with Michael Astera's from soilmineralsDOTCOM the three areas are close enough that I just sent one for astera to analyze and make recommendations on.

CEC=18.59
Organic matter=15.33
PH=6.9
Anions
Sulfur=15, 182 ppm desired
Phosphorus=103, 363 ppm desired.

cations
Calcium 79%
Magnesium=10.27%
Potassium=3.71%
Salt .5%
Other bases 4.5%
Hydrogen =1.5%

Trace
Boron .82, 2.54ppm desired
Iron=107, 182 ppm desired.
Manganese 48, 70ppm desired.
Copper 7, 18 desired.
Zinc 7, 36 desired
Aluminum=1515

I added trace last year, but I won't be this year because I wasn't able to arrange acquiring all of them in time. My plan is to add them every other year, and foliar micros during the season.

Recommendations per 1000 square feet

Calphos-200 pounds
Sulfate of potash-15#
Salt 6#
Kelp-15#
Azomite 15#
Feather meal 30#

I was suppose to add 6# of sodium nitrate but I also could lot get any in time for amending.

[MountZionCollec]

I have amended all my fruit trees, blackberries/rasberries, grapes, currants, and edible roses. I have also amended my veggie growing area that is ~1000 square feet where we hope to grow almost all of our produce we need for the year once it starts yielding.

We have also laid down the drip irrigation on all that and laid down some rice straw over the top of my emitter lines.

[Chunkypigs]

you had nice plants last year with the light ammendments you used.

have you tried to source composted bedding from stables or farms near you?
I could get that for the cost of delivery at my last spot and worked it into my veggies, fruit trees and weed plots.

it made a huge improvement to the local soil for a tiny investment.

can't wait to see how your second season turns out, good luck!

[MountZionCollec]

Originally Posted by Chunkypigs

you had nice plants last year with the light ammendments you used.

have you tried to source composted bedding from stables or farms near you?
I could get that for the cost of delivery at my last spot and worked it into my veggies, fruit trees and weed plots.

it made a huge improvement to the local soil for a tiny investment.

can't wait to see how your second season turns out, good luck!

That is a great idea. I am just now getting to meet and know a lot of noncannabis farmers in the area so I will start asking around.

[FunkBomb]

I use just composted horse poop in smart pots for my vegetables and they do extremely well. If there is a horse stable nearby and they have compost piles a lot of times they will be glad if you take it.

-Funk