[RockinRobot]

Originally Posted by dansbuds

some people are switching to maxi grow for veg , when feeding light with the V&B you get defs . i was having the same problem & tried a few additives to try & help with it . but i found if you feed heavier in veg than your used to 90% of the problems go away . i still use some vitamins & amino acids in veg , but sense going up considerably on the veg doses , my veg has never been better !!!

I've never had issues in veg. I did run into P deficiency mid flower ever since starting CO2 though. For me the switch to Maxi bloom and just that little boost has really made a difference.

I would definitely try the V+B if I could source it locally. But I get the 2.2lb bag of Maxi bloom for $16 at my local store.

[Aspenou812]

Originally Posted by unclefishstick

im guessing you mean a 20 oz soda bottle,not 20 liters!



thats why they dont allow it here,it just turns into a stupid penis waving contest...polotics should only be spoken about when theres good whiskey nearby...

You that exactly what I mean... and peins waving contest suck... no way I can have a chance at winning one of those...

[Aspenou812]

RR those look perfectly healthy... no denying that... I used maxi in veg for a long time... I would set the ph at 6.2 and it would always drop really quickly... the V+B is dead stable in my RO with my water supply

[dansbuds]

Originally Posted by Aspenou812

RR those look perfectly healthy... no denying that... I used maxi in veg for a long time... I would set the ph at 6.2 and it would always drop really quickly... the V+B is dead stable in my RO with my water supply

mine was too in the basement .... sense moving the grow to the garage , it drops like every other day . i've even tried advanced PH up & its made a little difference , but i still get the PH drop alot faster than i used to !

[RockinRobot]

Originally Posted by Aspenou812

RR those look perfectly healthy... no denying that... I used maxi in veg for a long time... I would set the ph at 6.2 and it would always drop really quickly... the V+B is dead stable in my RO with my water supply

Wow I haven't seen any issues like this. I have to adjust ph about every 2-3 days but I have to adjust it down not up. I'm running recirculating though not DTW like you and Dan. Other than the explosive growth I have seen no difference in the way ph fluctuates from Lucas formula.

I set ph at 5.7-5.8 let it go up to 6.1 then adjust back down.

[packerfan79]

Originally Posted by Aspenou812

You that exactly what I mean... and peins waving contest suck... no way I can have a chance at winning one of those...

From all the crazy dive stories, you got some big brass balls. Lol. You can out do most of us old fuckers.

[packerfan79]

Originally Posted by RockinRobot

Wow I haven't seen any issues like this. I have to adjust ph about every 2-3 days but I have to adjust it down not up. I'm running recirculating though not DTW like you and Dan. Other than the explosive growth I have seen no difference in the way ph fluctuates from Lucas formula.

I set ph at 5.7-5.8 let it go up to 6.1 then adjust back down.

It must be something to do with the RO water because I have only had ph rise. I haven't bought a bottle of ph up since I quit using RO water. I kno w it's more difficult to change and maintain ph with RO water. The guy who owns the local hydroshop told me years ago, with coco all you need is a dechlorinator. We have good water here, like 90 ppms.

[Drumskinz]

Originally Posted by packerfan79

It must be something to do with the RO water because I have only had ph rise. I haven't bought a bottle of ph up since I quit using RO water. I kno w it's more difficult to change and maintain ph with RO water. The guy who owns the local hydroshop told me years ago, with coco all you need is a dechlorinator. We have good water here, like 90 ppms.

I get about 1/2 gal. minute with my well. Water is very alkaline like 8.4 ph on a good day. So I use v&b hard along with AN down in my rez and I have to adjust down again after 3 or 4 days...never more than 1/4 to 1/2 ml.

[Aspenou812]

Originally Posted by packerfan79

It must be something to do with the RO water because I have only had ph rise. I haven't bought a bottle of ph up since I quit using RO water. I kno w it's more difficult to change and maintain ph with RO water. The guy who owns the local hydroshop told me years ago, with coco all you need is a dechlorinator. We have good water here, like 90 ppms.

Incoming water supply makes all the difference in the world... not all H2O is the same its source dependant and varys by location...

[Smokin Joe]

Originally Posted by dansbuds

mine was too in the basement .... sense moving the grow to the garage , it drops like every other day . i've even tried advanced PH up & its made a little difference , but i still get the PH drop alot faster than i used to !

I don't know what you and I have that's different other than you having ro. When I mix v&b at 5 grams per gallon the ph lands at 5.6 and stays there. No adjustments required. My veg I mix 4 grams per gallon and it lands at 5.8 so I drop it to 5.6 and it's rock steady also