[gaiusmarius]

how did we come to this stuff about education levels and literacy rates?

[Dog Star]

Was impressed with a language knowledge from Moroccan poeople,

thats why we talk about education levels.

Nordin from Tanger,mine friend that i have in Barcelona speak English,French,Spanish,Italian and his domestic language very fluently,that was impresive to me.

Sorry for offtopic..

[kaochiu]

it all begun with a seed... guess we were trying to determinate the capabilities of moroccans to deal with their own bussiness when hash making, after all it's not that foreign people go there to take over, more likely they are accepted and often used. People from the Rif specially has a tradition of fierly independence, one of the reasons that gave its status. Then again, there's a fierce hyerarchy there.
First thing you were seeing when going up the Rif mountains was a big board saying "Agricultural Experimental Area" or some euphemism like that. Then a second checkpoint outside Chaouen that, if you were going towards Ketama your passport would be marked (for a nice reception in the border). Avoidable with a tip, with the taxi driver acting as middle man.
Palm oil? It fits. Or argan oil maybe, as there's an abundance, but it does smell when burnt. Whatever it is cannot be seen through the microscope. You see the trichs there, some heads intact, meaning it has not been strongly beaten. Yet there's a lot of homogeneous oily spaces between them and (i ain't no scientist) it suggests something like that.
Dog Star: In Larache's port there was a korean ship stranded with the crew for two years. It was funny to hear souk children and vendors speaking korean to them. It's not a question of intelligence, but from a better vocal system that uses the lower aesophagus and they find much simpler to replicate sounds... to their individual intelligence levels.

[ChaosCatalunya]

Some photos of things I have seen

Worked hash alongside unworked hash, same product from the same place, one bashed, one not



Some nice hash




For me, the best thing I have seen from Morocco, dry sift from a freezer truck, made at minus 25C. You would not hold a lighter to this to see if it is FMB... that would just be absurd. The guy who made it told me that it had lost a significant amount of quality in transit. This, at e60/g is the most expensive hash I have heard of being sold in clubs, but well worth it....

[Elmer Bud]

Originally Posted by kaochiu

it all begun with a seed... guess we were trying to determinate the capabilities of moroccans to deal with their own bussiness when hash making, after all it's not that foreign people go there to take over, more likely they are accepted and often used. People from the Rif specially has a tradition of fierly independence, one of the reasons that gave its status. Then again, there's a fierce hyerarchy there.
First thing you were seeing when going up the Rif mountains was a big board saying "Agricultural Experimental Area" or some euphemism like that. Then a second checkpoint outside Chaouen that, if you were going towards Ketama your passport would be marked (for a nice reception in the border). Avoidable with a tip, with the taxi driver acting as middle man.
Palm oil? It fits. Or argan oil maybe, as there's an abundance, but it does smell when burnt. Whatever it is cannot be seen through the microscope. You see the trichs there, some heads intact, meaning it has not been strongly beaten. Yet there's a lot of homogeneous oily spaces between them and (i ain't no scientist) it suggests something like that.
Dog Star: In Larache's port there was a korean ship stranded with the crew for two years. It was funny to hear souk children and vendors speaking korean to them. It's not a question of intelligence, but from a better vocal system that uses the lower aesophagus and they find much simpler to replicate sounds... to their individual intelligence levels.
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G `day K

Hash making is an introduced process .
The old school style was flowers with tobacco . AKA Kiff .

In the 1960s and 1970s, an influx of young Western tourists had a profound effect on cannabis in Morocco. Prior to this, cannabis was produced in small quantities, and smoked as kief, pollen mixed with black tobacco. In response to massive demand from tourists and smugglers, Moroccans adopted larger-scale techniques to replace artisanal ones.[4] While there are competing legends as to how hashish production was introduced to Morocco, it is widely believed that it happened during this period.[5]



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_Morocco

The old Kiff plants are long gone .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

[kaochiu]

Yep Elmer, it's just i didn't used the quote when replying The "it all begun with a seed..." was the answer to Gaiusmarius on how we ended up talking about language skills in a hashish thread.
Of course you're right on hash making being introduced in Morocco, and i can add that it took a while for them to learn, as they tend to distrust foreign ideas. But since the thing was positive for them, they soon adapted their ways to it, such as roof top drying. I can't see a dutch teaching that, but i was only born in the sixties and not aware of their own skills at the time. I guess they'd learn it somewhere in the Hippy Trail themselves.
Used to do my own kiffi, complete with tabba, sebsi and chopping knife, but using my own stash, of course, and imho, it's what we honest tokers call an improvement...
After all these years being the worlds no1 exporter and with the new "smarter" generations they could have used new techniques or developed new skills themselves.
I took different seeds several times and they would always grow them carefully apart. The superstar was a thaixhazexskunk in 2003-4 that grew huge in a chicken enclousure in the back of the main house, but i cannot tell for sure that were used for production.
They were truly impressed by it, but they needed to be careful not to break the pattern. The very resinous plants were giving them trouble with their filtering meshes, for example, they didn't want a field full of that or that of the neighbour because of a loose plant.
Who knows the potentials of a kiffi technical selection? Now's all gone, and the new varieties and market trends also change the ways of producing it.

[zachrockbadenof]

Originally Posted by Elmer Bud

[i]In the 1960s and 1970s, an influx of young Western tourists had a profound effect on cannabis in Morocco. Prior to this, [b]cannabis was produced in small quantities, and smoked as kief, pollen mixed with black tobacco
EB .

not sure when shit from morocco became world class, but it sure wasn't in the late 60's/up to mid /late 70's... it was pure dog-poop at that time.... it was green, and not worth smoking... in the 90's in the dam, we still couldn't find good moroccian at the coffee houses..

since we have no path to get hash, we are forced to make our own, dry sift, and bubble bags... as mentioned b4... our hash is good... not great...even down to 45bubble bag

[NotYourSaviour]

@Chaos_Catalunya


Thanks again! 60€ in clubs for some full melt produced in Morocco? I'm good thanks! Reminds me of that thing Titoon29 on here put so nicely the other day somewhere on here(had similar thoughts before).
I mean this truck here tops it all but also as Titoon29 pointed out those new genetics give better yield but they also need more water and resources.
This isn't that nice thinking about it that this is happening in a poor country where they use this very watter supply to produce drugs. In opposite to those established 'seedlines'(wild open pollination mostly)they used until the last years which are more or less acclimatised(ecology).


Let alone mostly western people exploiting those mostly poor farmers apart from some privilleged groups involved to get it extremely cheap and making good profit but this again is another story and of course am too 'guilty' as I love to consume that hashish(don't want to talk about this topic here as it would be too much to say about that ; just saying!).
Bit of a madness to me especially this said truck. We'll see what happens next.

@Kaochiu


Thank you so much! Yes, I wondered this myself a lot of times when looking at their methods from back in the day they still use mostly(that's again to some degree due to already pointed out mentality of berber people there ; a culture similarly long around as the jewish one). As we all pointed out this is changing slowly though now.
If it would be up to me I'd love to see them selecting their own landrace from the more or less acclimatised seeds available around there. Could be handled like wine and they would be paid adequately in my utopia then(as from certain other producing traditional countries)!


@zackrockbadenof


True as what other older generations told me, too ! Read also somewhere that turkish people introduced their seedlines(or others from somewhere in Asia)in the 1960ies there and also taught them the method of dry sifting(inspired by Afghanistan and others).

[ChaosCatalunya]

The price reflects it's worth, in clubs Ice Bubble hash is usually 25 to 45, this is higher quality, it is probably some of the best stuff to ever come out of Morocco. The genetics are getting much better, yes rows of feminised Amnesia and OG Kush need irrigation, but less and less people were buying their product as European indoor growing mushroomed... so they are learning new techniques and upping their game.

[Elmer Bud]

G `day Giaus

Did you read the post about education in context ?
I said they might not have book learnin , but they are still intelligent people .

Morocco story from PS 1973 .
Paulo has friends in Morocc , went down there with his own seeds and made a garden .
Returned a cpl of months later to find males in his plot . He proceeded to pull out the males . Upset that his partners didn`t tend the garden .
His Morocc friend asked why Paulo wanted to remove the males !?
He told Paulo that male plants are part of the mix for Hash !!
The whole field gets sifted .

Thanks for sharin

EB .