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GMT · 11-19-2016, 02:23 PM

Hey,
So tell me this, given as time passes, some new offerings get better, and make actual improvements to what came before, why the sudden rush to what is now old?
So many people chasing genetics from the 90s are coming to light at the moment, it just makes me wonder why.
Do the people chasing the past not believe any breeder has been making improvements?

mack 10 · 11-19-2016, 05:03 PM

True but as the genepool is flooded with og,chem, diesel, hybrids (, etc,)
The only way forward is to go (back)and find some new landraces to look for new flavours/highs
Or other distinctive traits which can used as your platform to move on.

mack 10 · 11-19-2016, 05:07 PM

Weather it actually makes it better is a moot point cause,
My own seeds made from hybrids of hybrids seem to have
More of what I want compared to any (supposed) great landrace.
Also the dreaded s1 tech also seems to be of great benefit, contrary to old er thoughts.

Levitationofme · 11-19-2016, 05:23 PM

I personally think there are a ton of old farts like me who would love to smoke some of the golden oldies. Also exploring the different highs of these breeds is an awesome experience.

I have nothing against new crosses and they are also exciting to me.

Plenty of time to grow a bunch of different stuff.

I have grown some Panama and it's the balls!
The Chem Dog is badass. Tangie was silly good.

To each his pwn

Damn, good weed is good

As far as breeding goes, why not??
I remember being told a Russian scientist figured out by now humans have combined all the notes in music in all their possibe combinations already. No new music any more......

I don't believe that for a second.

aridbud · 11-19-2016, 05:27 PM

True. Prefer the strains earlier....but it's like craft beer....always striving for the next taste/brew batch.
I'll take a pilsner, amber or a stout and JH, Haze, NL anyday! ;o)

MJPassion · 11-20-2016, 02:44 PM

Reason #1 has to be nostalgia...
Reason #2 has got to be the number of breeders making these varieties available to the public now a days.
Reason #3 There are ever more people joining the forums & recounting their past & hearing, for the first time, how the seed game works then refering to reason #1.

I don't see breeders in mass returning to landrace genetics & I dont see breeders attempting to recreate what once was. A couple here & there is no indicator to me as these forums are a huge minority of the growing grower population. Also, those of us on these forums seem to be a bit more up to date with what's happening in the breeding world.

Forgot to mention uneducated hacks that haven't a clue other that varietal names & think they can get Sk#1 by tossing any ol pollen at any ol plant(s) from within those landrace pools. (This is not a dig at anybody on these forums... Just an observation of newb growers that think they can breed plants they've barely learned how to grow)

Growdoc · 11-24-2016, 10:28 AM

Female seed has set the industry back by several years, its contaminated the breeding pool and the plants have gotten weaker because of it. Cubing genetic pools is very important, Mendel's Law/Theory anything that can happen will happen.

GrowDoc

Morphote · 11-25-2016, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GMT

Hey,
So tell me this, given as time passes, some new offerings get better, and make actual improvements to what came before, why the sudden rush to what is now old?
So many people chasing genetics from the 90s are coming to light at the moment, it just makes me wonder why.
Do the people chasing the past not believe any breeder has been making improvements?

For me it is about having the basic building blocks and the ability to make my own selections.

M.

Weird · 11-25-2016, 11:34 PM

I personally find many nuances to every strains buzz above and beyond all other factors

some of the 90s strains had characteristics that are rare today

soaring high being one of them

gets deeper but I don't want to get tangential

WelderDan · 11-26-2016, 01:32 AM

As a long time smoker, nostalgia plays a big part of it. You were smoking a certain strain when something that you remember fondly happened. Smell is a very powerful memory trigger. Getting a whiff of that certain strain triggers a trip down memory lane. It takes you back in time.

Trust me, I'd love to get a whiff of some good Acapulco Gold, or Colombian Gold, or the good Redbud I once took for granted. Those strains are associated with good times with good friends. And they were not only tasty, but they were friggin great.

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GMT I am, therefore I think Join Date: May 2004 Location: Wonderland Posts: 5,964	New v Old Hey, So tell me this, given as time passes, some new offerings get better, and make actual improvements to what came before, why the sudden rush to what is now old? So many people chasing genetics from the 90s are coming to light at the moment, it just makes me wonder why. Do the people chasing the past not believe any breeder has been making improvements?
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11-19-2016, 05:03 PM	#2
mack 10 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 6,662	True but as the genepool is flooded with og,chem, diesel, hybrids (, etc,) The only way forward is to go (back)and find some new landraces to look for new flavours/highs Or other distinctive traits which can used as your platform to move on. __________________ Double OG.
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mack 10 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 6,662	Weather it actually makes it better is a moot point cause, My own seeds made from hybrids of hybrids seem to have More of what I want compared to any (supposed) great landrace. Also the dreaded s1 tech also seems to be of great benefit, contrary to old er thoughts. __________________ Double OG.
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11-19-2016, 05:23 PM	#4
Levitationofme Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Hanging with the Piper at the Gates of Dawn Posts: 1,040	I personally think there are a ton of old farts like me who would love to smoke some of the golden oldies. Also exploring the different highs of these breeds is an awesome experience. I have nothing against new crosses and they are also exciting to me. Plenty of time to grow a bunch of different stuff. I have grown some Panama and it's the balls! The Chem Dog is badass. Tangie was silly good. To each his pwn Damn, good weed is good As far as breeding goes, why not?? I remember being told a Russian scientist figured out by now humans have combined all the notes in music in all their possibe combinations already. No new music any more...... I don't believe that for a second.
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aridbud automeister Join Date: May 2013 Location: the best place on earth Posts: 5,589	True. Prefer the strains earlier....but it's like craft beer....always striving for the next taste/brew batch. I'll take a pilsner, amber or a stout and JH, Haze, NL anyday! ;o) __________________ Seeds have the power to preserve species, to enhance cultural as well as genetic diversity, to counter economic monopoly and to check the advance of conformity on all its many fronts. Michael Pollan Happiness held is the seed; Happiness shared is the flower. John Harrigan Instant gratification takes too long. Carrie Fisher - RIP. *afterthought autos* We are passionate breeders of unique quality cannabis autoflower hybrid seeds at down to earth prices; now 11 years running! https://www.icmag.com/ic/forumdisplay.php?f=65770
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11-20-2016, 02:44 PM	#6
MJPassion Observer Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: uni-verse Posts: 5,584	Reason #1 has to be nostalgia... Reason #2 has got to be the number of breeders making these varieties available to the public now a days. Reason #3 There are ever more people joining the forums & recounting their past & hearing, for the first time, how the seed game works then refering to reason #1. I don't see breeders in mass returning to landrace genetics & I dont see breeders attempting to recreate what once was. A couple here & there is no indicator to me as these forums are a huge minority of the growing grower population. Also, those of us on these forums seem to be a bit more up to date with what's happening in the breeding world. Forgot to mention uneducated hacks that haven't a clue other that varietal names & think they can get Sk#1 by tossing any ol pollen at any ol plant(s) from within those landrace pools. (This is not a dig at anybody on these forums... Just an observation of newb growers that think they can breed plants they've barely learned how to grow)
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11-24-2016, 10:28 AM	#7
Growdoc Cannabis Helper Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The World Posts: 2,367	Female seed has set the industry back by several years, its contaminated the breeding pool and the plants have gotten weaker because of it. Cubing genetic pools is very important, Mendel's Law/Theory anything that can happen will happen. GrowDoc __________________ Grow and be free... MEDICAL MARIJUANA BubbleDust released GROWDOC SEEDS FORUM
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11-26-2016, 01:32 AM	#10
WelderDan Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,465	As a long time smoker, nostalgia plays a big part of it. You were smoking a certain strain when something that you remember fondly happened. Smell is a very powerful memory trigger. Getting a whiff of that certain strain triggers a trip down memory lane. It takes you back in time. Trust me, I'd love to get a whiff of some good Acapulco Gold, or Colombian Gold, or the good Redbud I once took for granted. Those strains are associated with good times with good friends. And they were not only tasty, but they were friggin great. __________________ Cherry Bomb x C99 Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance. - Confucius
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