[Dakine]

Hey you guys!

Just wanted to show you guys why im so amazed at the 1st CFF3ks growth.. She hasnt been topped,fimmed,supercropped, or trained AT ALL.. She was one of the last to germinate out of all the other plants frrom different strains, but shes been the biggest&bushiest plant out of all of them. Her secondary growth/shoots have been growing like I topped and crushed her stems multiple times. Her VERY LOWEST secondary shoots have literally reached the exact same height as the main top.

I cant say the same for the last to germinate runt of A sister... Well she actually was doing good until I topped her. I've come to realize that I really shouldnt have topped her if she was gonna grow anything like her older monster sister.

I think the only technique that should be used on this strain/these specific girls, would be to train the secondary shoots to grow outwards and up. The fan leaves on this girl are so huge that they block all light from penetrating down to the lower growth.
The oldest/biggest CFF3k girl has stems like theyve been just growing for 1-2 weeks.. Even though she has literally the biggest stems out of all the TnT strains/plants I germinated. The stems are all A super lush light green, and they are sturdy but very soft when pressed/squeezed.. Not hollow or woody at all.
So far she doesnt seem to have any strong smells coming through. Even when the stems and leaves are rubbed, theres not really any smell to them at all.. The other TnT strains smell so loud and dank, I might need to get some kinda odor control for my veg area.

Im not really sure whats going on with the leaves on the bigger CFF3k. I thought her lower leaves/fingers where drooping from the damage I caused when they where very young. But now the drooping seems to be spreading VERY slowly to the newer growth.. It looks different from the Claw though..
I've been watering about very other day to every 2 days. Once A week they get molasses and Great White Shark for Microbe enviroment. I recently top dressed with 1-Tsp gypsum and 1/2-Tsp powdered/crushed oystershells. So hopefully the drooping will stop.

Here is A pic of the lower growth that looks to be drooping from not getting any light at all.. I need to find A way to train in these smart pots, since they dont have an edge like the black plastic pots I use to hold the twisty ties. Either that or I was seriously debating on trimming A few of the fan leaves off. I think the lower growth would be surpassing the main top easily if light was getting to the bottom 1/2 of her..

[Dakine]

Sorry ill give A detailed update later. Short for time!

[TnTLabs]

nice one bro... im going to be back as from next week, just a few more things to sort out.. the one on the right is huge! they both planted the same day?
i forgot sorry

[Dakine]

So the Runt is 35/36 Days from Initial Soak if I go by the most recent Update. Um according to the post/updates the Big CFF3k is 45/46 Days from the initial soak... So there's not that much of A difference in germination. But there's A pretty huge difference in overall growth/structure...

Also take in mind, I topped the smaller girl.. I really wanted to know what happens when you top A semi-auto lol. Looks like I stunted the shit outta her.. I shoulda just left her alone and took the Older Sisters Growth as my answer and reason to not top them.. All I've done is bend/train some lower growth to grow outwards then up.. Other wise I'd have to trim the huge fan leaves off!!!

[TnTLabs]

its really hard to say, ye compared to the bigger/older girl, one could think topping stunted her,
but one has to remember that growth exponentially increases and increases after the first few weeks of initial growth
but ye doubt she will look as big as the other one in 10 days...
cool, so you could start to think where outside to flower the big girl as she is nearly ready... hope she starts to show pre-flowers before you put her out...

[TnTLabs]

also are you feeding yet?

[aridbud]

Looks like I stunted the shit outta her..
Yep...semi-autos....finicky....shouldn't top as it slows growth pattern....only LST.

[Dakine]

I know exactly where I'm going to put these girls outside lol.. I've been growing small bunches of roots from A couple different herbs these past few weeks.. So far I have 4 Bunches (3-4Branches Each) of Rosemary, 2-Bunches of Lemon Grass, 2-Bunches of Thai Basil,2-Bunches of Chinese Basil (which had started growing a bunch about 2ft away from the pot its in... I also have Hawaiian Chili Pepper Plants and Scorpion Pepper Plants in pots.. I don't think I'll be putting them near the grow. They seem to attract every single bug/pests even though I've been spraying with neem and dish soap, I even added Pure PepperMint Oil/water(?), and Hawaiian Chili Pepper to 2 Foliar Sprays to see if they did anything..

These 2-CFF3ks will be put right on the left side of the imaginary raised bed... I want to plant some of the herbs into the smart pots with the girls, and possibly even in the raised bed when it's finished.. But A few will be heavily regulated and kept in pots next to the plants, like the Mint and Basils..

The Smart pots will be sitting on A few regular bricks in order to maximize the amount of direct sunlight that will be hitting them.. Most likely the big girl will be transplanted from her 3-Gal Smart Pot into A 5-Gal Dirt/Smart Pot when im putting her outside..

I'll be training them once they are outside in there finishing spots. These girls need no topping at all ime. As long as they are in big enough pots to veg in, you will have A plant that looks like it's been used for multiple different methods that all promote different types/kinds of growth lol.. As long as good enough light is hitting the plant, and her roots have space to grow freely.

This grow is supposed to be A grow to test out certain strains/plants I think.. So trying different methods out on each plant will be A way for us to see how/if these girls react to certain methods differently?

^Was that good enough to draw the blame away from my novice curiosity? Atleast we know it reacted to being topped like they're supposed to...

[TnTLabs]

D, do your thing! 4 sure experiment... it is your garden! i appreciate the effort and time you are taking! 5 Gallon sounds perfect...
more and more i look i think its cause of the lack of light that they are showing deff, soil should be ok till transplant.. maybe one feed at 1.5EC over the weekend for the big girl

[Dakine]

Hey you guys, sorry for the half ass update before.. Been going through some personal stuff.. But I agreed to do this, and its something I actually love to do.

For some reason, im getting A feeling like this Older CFF3k might actually go into flower soon.. When she produces new leaves at the very top, its starting to look like the first pistils are going to come out as well... She hasnt shown pre flowers yet, I have never had A plant show pre flowers under 24/0 lighting. Im guessing its because theres no Dark time for them to produce the hormones.

So far she has been getting plain water, with molasses, and Great White Shark added 1x A week.. I didnt want to feed her since it looks like im still getting A minor Claw on her Leaves, but no yellowing.

Im starting to think its some of the liquid nutes or something that I was using before.. I just started Watering my SSSDH Girl and clones with some nutes/food and now they are getting the claw back MAJORLY and the leaves seem to keep yellowing but slowly..

If I want to feed the plants that are vegging I use, Dyna Gro-Grow, and Earth Juice Cal/Mag.. For the plants in Flower I use Dyna Gro-Bloom,Raw-Potassium,Earth Juice-Cal/Mag...
I could make A tea with Organic Nutes, and I also now have Lime,Gypsum, and OysterShells for Calcium..

I want to get away from this Fox Farms Ocean Forest... Maybe try the Light Warrior by itself instead of 1/2 and 1/2 soil mix.. I can also get Royal Gold-Mendo, Roots Organic, and SS #4, and Pro Mixes.. The plants outside look fine, but im not sure if that has something to do with it, Or if I have some kind of viruses or disease inside?


So back to the subject lol, I wanted to do A little bending of branches now, A slight trim, and take 1 Cut from each plant from all TnT strains.. I also Did A Foliar Spray with Neem Oil,Molasses, and Dawn Blue Dish Soap.. Just to be prepared and to prepare the plants/cuts that will be outside...

First Two Are Before Shot- CFF3k-#1 .. I didnt want to cut the fan leaves off no matter how much they where blocking lower growth.. So I trimmed them and bent the lower shoots outwards...





Top View-After Shot CFF3k-#1.. Let me know if you guys think I should take the fan leaves off, Or If I should fully train the ENTIRE branch horizontally?



Haha she also has Huge Fan Leaves