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shaggyballs · 11-14-2016, 05:55 PM

Citizens of States voting to legalize cannabis must ask for nothing short of a Constitutionally protected rights for individual growers. Anything less is going to be smeared in the voters faces, and already has been in some states.
Without Constitutionally protected rights for individual growers, Big Cannabiz will push out small individual grows in the name of tax $$$$$
Also law makers can change the laws concerning cannabis without a vote of the people.
Laws in Michigan are being crafted behind closed doors without the peoples voice being heard as we speak!

States that have already voted yes may be F#*ked already!

Cast your vote please!

aridbud · 11-14-2016, 06:32 PM

Laws in Michigan are being crafted behind closed doors without the peoples voice being heard as we speak!
Many laws statutes are "crafted" on the golf course or bar. Nothing new!

Activism helps bring the matter to the common ordinary folk!

MJPassion · 11-15-2016, 12:52 AM

Voters in other States should heed the warning & retain all their liberties.

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Originally Posted by Benjamin Franklin

Any man willing to give up liberty for security deserves neither.

Gry · 11-15-2016, 01:10 AM

The way I understand it, you need to have someone you are paying to be sitting at the table behind the closed doors. Not sure how a little guy is supposed to manage that. I suppose I would be told to organize. OK so I get ten other people to pitch in- how does the group find a rep that won't just fleece them.
Would love to speak with others that have been successful with such an effort.

Space Toker · 11-15-2016, 02:40 AM

wtf? what do you mean? It seems like the point of my thread, that it is spelled out for true bare bones personal use only, but what will happen to the small to mid grower that wants to legally sell, what does that involve and are they better off staying underground? I know nothing of the Michigan law, and your poll questions other than the 1at all sounded pretty much the same so I just voted for the top one or the best choice I had unlike most in the election!

shaggyballs · 12-28-2016, 04:50 PM

shaggyballs · 08-24-2017, 09:23 PM

Mi currently has a chance to amend their state constitution.
I suggest to vote no on anything less or else!
shag

oldchuck · 08-25-2017, 01:26 AM

Shag, perhaps you are not aware that in many states, including my own, citizens cannot vote to change state constitutions. That is a power reserved to legislatures. Constitutional amendments take several years and are rare. Not a bad way to do it in my opinion. Consider how dumb it sounds to promote adding a Cannabis amendment to the federal Constitution.

shaggyballs · 09-26-2017, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by oldchuck

Shag, perhaps you are not aware that in many states, including my own, citizens cannot vote to change state constitutions. That is a power reserved to legislatures. Constitutional amendments take several years and are rare. Not a bad way to do it in my opinion. Consider how dumb it sounds to promote adding a Cannabis amendment to the federal Constitution.

No I was not aware of how it works deep down, but I do know if current legalization bills don't call for an amendment your personal growing right can be stripped from you at a later date.

Michigan is in the middle of this sort of thing right now and if a law is passed without an amendment I say vote no, because they will just take your rights from you after the bill passes.

Bottom line without a bill that includes a constitutional amendment we are just screwed.

View Poll Results: What do you think of Constitutionally protected rights for individual growers
Constitutionally protected rights for individual growers is important in any form of legalization!	13	92.86%
Constitutionally protected rights for individual growers is important but not a deal breaker!	1	7.14%
Constitutionally protected rights for individual growers would be nice but not needed.	0	0%
Constitutionally protected rights for individual growers is not needed, just vote yes!	0	0%
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11-14-2016, 05:55 PM	#1
shaggyballs Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Hold your hand up...right about there! Posts: 1,975	Cituzens of States voting to legalize must demand Constitutional protection! Citizens of States voting to legalize cannabis must ask for nothing short of a Constitutionally protected rights for individual growers. Anything less is going to be smeared in the voters faces, and already has been in some states. Without Constitutionally protected rights for individual growers, Big Cannabiz will push out small individual grows in the name of tax $$$$$ Also law makers can change the laws concerning cannabis without a vote of the people. Laws in Michigan are being crafted behind closed doors without the peoples voice being heard as we speak! States that have already voted yes may be F#ked already! Cast your vote please!* __________________ Vote no to legalize cannabis or else! HydroBuddy Nute calculator Ins and outs of Pythium OVERGROW FAQ SEEDPAC Politically Active Cannabis Fighting for Michigan's Medical Marihuana Patients and Caregivers rights I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
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11-14-2016, 06:32 PM	#2
aridbud automeister Join Date: May 2013 Location: the best place on earth Posts: 5,589	Laws in Michigan are being crafted behind closed doors without the peoples voice being heard as we speak! Many laws statutes are "crafted" on the golf course or bar. Nothing new! Activism helps bring the matter to the common ordinary folk! __________________ Seeds have the power to preserve species, to enhance cultural as well as genetic diversity, to counter economic monopoly and to check the advance of conformity on all its many fronts. Michael Pollan Happiness held is the seed; Happiness shared is the flower. John Harrigan Instant gratification takes too long. Carrie Fisher - RIP. *afterthought autos* We are passionate breeders of unique quality cannabis autoflower hybrid seeds at down to earth prices; now 11 years running! https://www.icmag.com/ic/forumdisplay.php?f=65770
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11-15-2016, 01:10 AM	#4
Gry More hash tea... Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: land of hummingbirds and turtles Posts: 1,818	The way I understand it, you need to have someone you are paying to be sitting at the table behind the closed doors. Not sure how a little guy is supposed to manage that. I suppose I would be told to organize. OK so I get ten other people to pitch in- how does the group find a rep that won't just fleece them. Would love to speak with others that have been successful with such an effort. __________________ That which matters most
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11-15-2016, 02:40 AM	#5
Space Toker Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Northeast of Nowhere Posts: 1,995	wtf? what do you mean? It seems like the point of my thread, that it is spelled out for true bare bones personal use only, but what will happen to the small to mid grower that wants to legally sell, what does that involve and are they better off staying underground? I know nothing of the Michigan law, and your poll questions other than the 1at all sounded pretty much the same so I just voted for the top one or the best choice I had unlike most in the election! __________________ Cannabis is about peace and love and freedom, not blind obedience and repressive control. PEACE
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12-28-2016, 04:50 PM	#6
shaggyballs Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Hold your hand up...right about there! Posts: 1,975	__________________ Vote no to legalize cannabis or else! HydroBuddy Nute calculator Ins and outs of Pythium OVERGROW FAQ SEEDPAC Politically Active Cannabis Fighting for Michigan's Medical Marihuana Patients and Caregivers rights I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
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08-24-2017, 09:23 PM	#7
shaggyballs Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Hold your hand up...right about there! Posts: 1,975	Mi currently has a chance to amend their state constitution. I suggest to vote no on anything less or else! shag __________________ Vote no to legalize cannabis or else! HydroBuddy Nute calculator Ins and outs of Pythium OVERGROW FAQ SEEDPAC Politically Active Cannabis Fighting for Michigan's Medical Marihuana Patients and Caregivers rights I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.
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08-25-2017, 01:26 AM	#8
oldchuck Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,111	Shag, perhaps you are not aware that in many states, including my own, citizens cannot vote to change state constitutions. That is a power reserved to legislatures. Constitutional amendments take several years and are rare. Not a bad way to do it in my opinion. Consider how dumb it sounds to promote adding a Cannabis amendment to the federal Constitution.
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