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Old 11-29-2016, 12:39 PM #21
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any info on "Raziel" from Easy-A, Mendocino?
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Hey Pastor, the Raziel is from seed I was given. Seed is from the mid 70's, was not stored well and I have not been successful in getting it to germinate. But there is enough intact DNA for it to be sequenced and put into the galaxy. I am open to ideas on how to germ old seed. I have tried scarification, soaking in fulvic acid, different concentrations of giberellic acid plus your standard germinating techniques, all to no avail. Would love to see how it looks but so far no success.
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Old 02-13-2017, 10:09 PM #23
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I lost track of the link but there's a video of rob Clark where he kinda admits this galaxy is BS.

Phyllis is about selling $300 tests. Their results look as promising at this point as the DX analyzer, lol.
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I lost track of the link but there's a video of rob Clark where he kinda admits this galaxy is BS.

Phyllis is about selling $300 tests. Their results look as promising at this point as the DX analyzer, lol.
But if members here have landrace samples for the Phylos, the test is free if you send them to Sam Skunkman

Yea, the Phylos has too many US polyhybrids on it.
Maybe it will get better when more landrace samples have been uploaded
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But if members here have landrace samples for the Phylos, the test is free if you send them to Sam Skunkman

Yea, the Phylos has too many US polyhybrids on it.
Maybe it will get better when more landrace samples have been uploaded
Listen, the science is flawed and Clarke alludes to it in the video, the proof is in the galaxy, look at Sam and Rob's test results.

Here's one of three pheno's of skunk #1 that Rob sent in and the Galaxy can't even relate them to each other let alone to Sam's Skunk.
It says all three are unique clones in the Galaxy.

https://https://testing.phylosbioscience.com/sample/genotype/4g79q19o/

I think the most valuable part of all the genetic wisdom in the Galaxy is seeing how much OG Kush was in Sam's 70's genetics, lol!

The other is seeing that not only can it not tell that seeds from the same batch are related it can't tell apart the different cookie clones or the crosses made from it let alone tell you which came first, it says they are all the same clone.

the galaxy is a cool advertising thing but we want a family tree and this thing has no sensitivity, you don't get the accuracy needed from a $300 partial analysis.

When it lumps the entire world into a category called landrace you know this isn't even trying to do what we are looking for here.

Hey, my test has done got some landrace genes in it, we hit pay dirt Jethro!
call the Instagram, Quick!

Uncle Jed there's Berry in there too!
Original Blueberry or pre 96 BlackBerry Kush Jethro?
Who gives a fu(k !!! Grannie get online with this quick, we're gonna be rich!
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Old 02-14-2017, 05:08 PM #26
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Here's one of three pheno's of skunk #1 that Rob sent in and the Galaxy can't even relate them to each other let alone to Sam's Skunk.
It says all three are unique clones in the Galaxy.

https://https://testing.phylosbioscience.com/sample/genotype/4g79q19o/
Am i missing something or did you?
Actually it shows relation between Skunk-pheno 1 and Skunk-pheno 2
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I think the most valuable part of all the genetic wisdom in the Galaxy is seeing how much OG Kush was in Sam's 70's genetics, lol!
Well doesn't OG Kush have some Super Skunk in it, if so, then Phylos really should show a relation between OG and Skunk..
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When it lumps the entire world into a category called landrace you know this isn't even trying to do what we are looking for here.
Bit of an over statement, don't you think.


If you wanna talk about this, hold the sarcasm and keep to the point.
It kinda now seems you were so eager to bash the Phylos that you even missed it showing relation between the two Skunk#1s.

But like i said, sure there is too much US cuts and polyhybrids on Phylos and not enough traditional or landrace genetics. MAybe it will get better in time. We'll see.
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That could just be looked at as shared alleles that are mislabeled/attributed to a newer variety when they are really just shared ancient ancestry. Probably OG and the others have skunk ancestry. Similar things have happened when it comes to incoming information about the human genome. Over time, more information allows for a better idea about the direction of gene flow - what's recent admixture and what's older shared ancestry.
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Am i missing something or did you?
Actually it shows relation between Skunk-pheno 1 and Skunk-pheno 2

Well doesn't OG Kush have some Super Skunk in it, if so, then Phylos really should show a relation between OG and Skunk..

Bit of an over statement, don't you think.


If you wanna talk about this, hold the sarcasm and keep to the point.
It kinda now seems you were so eager to bash the Phylos that you even missed it showing relation between the two Skunk#1s.

But like i said, sure there is too much US cuts and polyhybrids on Phylos and not enough traditional or landrace genetics. MAybe it will get better in time. We'll see.
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Read what it says about the THREE phenos of Skunk #1 from Rob and the two from Sam.

it says they have NO immediate family members and are unique in the galaxy.

The fifteen closest relatives are different for all three of Rob's phenos and they don't match SAMs either.

This think is hokum with or without sarcasm, same as the DX analyzer.

Maybe it will be better when they fix their software?
Maybe it will be better when they get more old samples?

Maybe you can't get a correct DNA analysis of a genome as large as Cannabis with a partial test and an algorithm?
I'll stick with that until you show me something useful in this mess.

I'm open minded, show me what you found in here that's useful.
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Old 02-15-2017, 07:58 AM #29
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Here's one of three pheno's of skunk #1 that Rob sent in and the Galaxy can't even relate them to each other let alone to Sam's Skunk.
Aren't you saying here none of the Skunk#1 phenos show relation to each other?
...If so, then your claim is false

You can't see the two 1979 Skunk-phenos shown on the "genetic web", connected with a grey line, meaning they are related? Are you blind?



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it says they have NO immediate family members and are unique in the galaxy.
"No immediate immediate relations" ...right

Ok..
Let's think about a hypothetical situation that the three Skunk#1 phenos were all fairly pure expressions of the three landraces used in Skunk#1 breeding project = one plant very much an Afghani, one Colombian and one Mexican

..how close relation do you expect the Phylos to show between them?

Next..
Do you believe that the parent landraces (afg-mexi-colom) were all STABLE lines when the Skunk#1-project was started?

If these seed lines weren't stable, recessive traits also come into play, and can distort the "assumed" DNA results. "Assumed" because people like you seem to think Sam's 1979-Skunk stock is fairly STABLE, and that every plant is basically a genetic-copy of the nex t one.


Didn't Sam start stabilizing Skunk#1 in the 1980's, while the sample you linked is from 1979?

Do you really think a 1979 Afghani-pheno of Skunk#1 and a 1979 Mexi-pheno of Skunk SHOULD show IMMEDIATE relation to each other?

You're not this stupid, are you?
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That could just be looked at as shared alleles that are mislabeled/attributed to a newer variety when they are really just shared ancient ancestry. Probably OG and the others have skunk ancestry. Similar things have happened when it comes to incoming information about the human genome. Over time, more information allows for a better idea about the direction of gene flow - what's recent admixture and what's older shared ancestry.

Dows is correct
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