[EastBayGrower]

not easily, i could make it happen but the only thing i could really gain on this round would be to gather some in the pines pollen, there;s not too many other males i want, and of the lvrk males only one i think i want to use based on RAS TRUTHS personal lvrk breeding notes

Ras truth royal kush breeding notes....

" I start selecting before I see the first set of true leaves; the Indica dominance of the highland afghani is prevalent and distinctly different than that of the Royal Kush. The Royal favors the leaf structure of the Purple Kush and is long bladed with jagged serrations. The Highland Afghani looks more like the Diesel but slightly more broad, your classic five-finger Indica leaf. In growing through the F1 generation of females I found that the broad leaf phenos leaned toward the spice of the Afghani and the slender jagged leaves leaned toward the Kush."

i bred the f2 of in the pines , to lean towards sativa ..... as the females were super materkush dominate and smaller , was looking to make a larger sativa pheno range ..... i heard from couple sources now that this has come to fruition . perhaps it may be suitable for me to grow now . i,ll be checking in winter .

[EastBayGrower]

Originally Posted by BAKED_BEANZ

i bred the f2 of in the pines , to lean towards sativa ..... as the females were super materkush dominate and smaller , was looking to make a larger sativa pheno range ..... i heard from couple sources now that this has come to fruition . perhaps it may be suitable for me to grow now . i,ll be checking in winter .

they where all so sativa dominant that i couldn't grow em in my tent, to lanky... which is the exact same way my prized outdoor Cookie frost clone is like, so sativa that its a pain to grow indoors, just keeps stretching... not a matter of long finish time just keeps growing... its definitely not exclusive that a killer indoor clone will do well outdoors or visa versa... two totally different animals...

i too would like to put an in the pines outdoors, think it would be one of if not the best yielder... only knock on it is the bag appeal is kinda lacking from what ive seen, kinda airy, green with yellow tint, not too appealing imo..

and ps its a great thing ur doing with mene gene

[EastBayGrower]

got the breeding area set up, we gonna make the selections and flip these tonight.... cant wait till the flowers start to develop...

found a couple of crawling root aphids on a small in the pines sitll in a solo cup, i freaked out and threw the whole tray away, checked everything and couldnt find anymore crawlers, some flyers get caught on the sticky tape so there definitely around...

i decided to do an orethene/riptide drench which so far has worked amazingly! this is my go to for RA sightings now... also sprayed the area with riptide to kill any crawlers fleeing

plants actually looked better then before the watering, perked up and looked totally normal... no burn nothing...

now ill do drenchs with pfr97, botanigaurd, and foliar pack in rotation for a while... i hate RA!!!

will up date with pics soon... gonna get good

[EastBayGrower]

gonna use 1 gallon smart pots for the breeding room

and debating on how many plants im gonna flower unseeded i might put those in 3 gals..

anyone ever have a decent yield with 1 gals or is it more trouble then its worth (water too often, no yield, ect..) ???

[_tessarecting]

I get better results with 1.7 gals compared to 3's, just put it on a drip

[EastBayGrower]

Ok selections made and breeding area flowered... it shook out to be
The white, thin mint gsc. cherry pie x gsc, sfv og, kens gdp, blue zkittlez. royal truth, cookie frost, and lvrk for the females, and a single lvrk male

based on Ras truths personal breeding notes for the LVRK below i made the selections from 8 females and 3 males...

Originally Posted by EastBayGrower

Ras truth royal kush breeding notes....

" I start selecting before I see the first set of true leaves; the Indica dominance of the highland afghani is prevalent and distinctly different than that of the Royal Kush. The Royal favors the leaf structure of the Purple Kush and is long bladed with jagged serrations. The Highland Afghani looks more like the Diesel but slightly more broad, your classic five-finger Indica leaf. In growing through the F1 generation of females I found that the broad leaf phenos leaned toward the spice of the Afghani and the slender jagged leaves leaned toward the Kush."

Males: based on ras notes i look for leaf structure first, gotta have the long blades of the royal and ruled out the one with a short stout afghani pheno, then did a stem rub, checked structure and checked overall vigor of the remaing two plants... the male was chosen..

in the pic you can see the chosen male on the left with long blades similar to wha Ras described, and on the right is a lvrk that appears to be a Afghani dom. pheno



females: these where a bit of a harder selection but again first was selecting the ones with the long bladed royal kush leaves, then was a stem rub and one female DEFINATELY stood out, on first smell i said "wow thats royal" unmistakable smell of royal kush... she has good vigor and the other main factor was the branching and structure of the plant, you can see this one was the most branchy (without topping) which is a distinct characteristic of the royal truth clone i have from Ras that is a trait i really like, lends well to indoor growing,,, in the pic you can see the branching on the chosen female...

[Sluicebox]

It takes 10 days to 2 weeks for the Orthene/Riptide burn to show up. I was the same as you and thought I dodged the bullet, nope. Every leaf that was on my plants before the dunk turned yellow and died. New leaves were never full sized. I posted my trials with it in the Fungus Gnat /Root Aphid thread December ish 2015. You might check it out if you have a minute.

Seems that I had to go with a real light foliar feed till they snapped back, took about a month. Then only went maybe 30% of their potential with little to no terpz. Pretty sure my medium was FFOF and was running Supernatural Nutes. Now I'm in soil, organics much better, (knock on wood.)

Personally if you have RA's and extra beanz toss that room, nuke it and start over. Sorry to be the one to say that but if your roots go to shit and turn brown and you CONFIRM they're RA's then choose wisely.

I'd rather lose a month start fresh and pull a good one down then fight those fucks for 3 months and get schwag you can't give away. I'm no expert on breeding but I'd think you'd want strong healthy ones to choose from, not week, sick ones.

I never tried it but OG Bio war is supposed to work well on them. The Orthene/Riptide dunk works good to kill them for sure but new testing will show residuals even if used in veg.

I hope you're just misidentifying gnats for ra's. RA's have a fat wide body fwiw.

Best of luck to you Man, I mean that sincerely. Sorry if I'm out of line with this post.

Edit- I'm not seeing any signs of RA damage in your recent pics. If you re use your old pots that were once infested, there is a hormone they leave behind. It can't be cleaned out.

[EastBayGrower]

just had a crazy thing happen today, i went on the Bart train (subway) from San Fransisco and who do i sit next to... none other than the greatest has maker in western hemishpere if not the world... frenchy canolli ... and what a good dude, got to pick his brain for over a half hour about everything from hash making, tricks, current legal lanscape, upcomging world landscape, ect.. great dude and even humorred me and let me ramble on about my LVRK projects and show pics of my grows.... hes a really good dude... jsut thought id throw that out there...

Leo stone and frenchy are hosting a charity event/dinner/smokeout as a fundraiser for a child who had a stroke, i encourage everyone who is in the SF Bay area to head down to SF and check it out, he said its gonna be two table one with food one with awesome smoke... and as always good people....

Originally Posted by EastBayGrower

i too would like to put an in the pines outdoors, think it would be one of if not the best yielder... only knock on it is the bag appeal is kinda lacking from what ive seen, kinda airy, green with yellow tint, not too appealing imo..

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its quiet funny , and i,m really glad they all turned out very sativa dominate . as firstly i was making seed for outdoor use .

rekon it will be different in presentation if the sativa dominated it , would have had to tighten the bud structure up and make it more nodgy .

pineapple thai sounds bloody nice too me , but they really need testing more and more feedback , i need to start making myself a strain list to test in winter for myself .