Huh? Why would anyone be arrested now? It's legal (within the limits stated in the law). This new law means that thousands of people per month will now not be arrested for pot and that is a wonderful thing. Say goodbye to $3000 pounds as it won't be long before $800 will be the absolute top price you will get. I'd guess that within 18 months the average price for a pound in Cali will be $500

so instead of bitching about your loss of profits, how about working out how to profit from how things will be. I mentioned on a previous post that prices will plummet, but there are niches that can be carved out if you get onto it now. Instead of trying to grow bulk like in the past and getting lower and lower prices, you could sell a "6 plant Grow Kit" delivered to the door that is ready to put in a back yard 6 x two foot tall clones in pots large enough to flower in, sell these with ferts, instruction and an ounce of the same bud to those thousands of people who now can and will grow their own.

I'd also suggest growing varieties that the cash croppers won't grow like long flowering sativas and haze hybrids ..I'm sure there will be lots niches for experienced cash croppers to get into, long flowering varieties with inspirational highs will have a very strong demand...make and sell organic ferts, make and sell seeds etc etc, buy trim from the big guys and make 99% pure dry sift, turn your crop into hashish...there's lots of little niches to be developed and exploited, all you have to do is make it happen....we live in exciting times! Seize the day!

[seeded]

All you guys did was swap illegal cartels for legal ones. The restrictions placed upon home growing will ultimately make it impossible for individuals to legally compete as literally growing a single 10 pack of seeds and taking just a couple of cuttings from each plant could land you in jail. Ultimately it's a win for the little guys who just want to buy a few cuttings and grow in their backyard for free smoko but for everyone else you should consider the war on drugs not only still ongoing but now more focused on you than ever because soon you're going to be labelled tax dodgers, illicit suppliers to children and criminals, a safety hazard due to grow room fires and BHO explosions, etc. and the general public when faced with the ability to either buy it at shops or legally and freely grow their own at home will eat that shit up like we're personally attacking them for daring to step out of line.

Personally I think you've got to push for cannabis to be cultivated as a non-profit product to win tomato like legality for the plant. If you argue that profiteering similar to how the cartels ran things can only harm the people through unfair prices and legal issues if they go outside the monopolies to save money people might actually listen as everyone hates being ripped off. From there it's just a matter of arguing that we should be legally allowed to grow as much as our property can cultivate because supply vs demand will drastically lower prices and if you want to tag along some American dream ideals to really sell it say that one day home growing will be as cool as home brewing and when that day comes the free market competition between all the best growers and breeders will not only lead to fame and fortune for some but a surge in overall quality for everyone which beats over priced mediocre buds from legal cartels.

[Amynamous]

Prop 64 protects you against the state, but not the FED. To me, the big question is whether Trump and Rudy as AG, will honor states rights. Or will they send the DEA to all the "legal" states and kick down doors?! I believe individual growers don't have too much to fear as long as they are on the down low, but the commercial growers/ retailers could lose everything.

[HeriMarry]

I think it is still ilegal until the state legislators pass a new law based off of this vote, I could be wrong but props to Cali for voting yes.

[armedoldhippy]

Originally Posted by Amynamous

Prop 64 protects you against the state, but not the FED. To me, the big question is whether Trump and Rudy as AG, will honor states rights. Or will they send the DEA to all the "legal" states and kick down doors?! I believe individual growers don't have too much to fear as long as they are on the down low, but the commercial growers/ retailers could lose everything.

there are not enough DEA to do the job by a LONG shot.

[bombadil.360]

Originally Posted by Amynamous

Prop 64 protects you against the state, but not the FED. To me, the big question is whether Trump and Rudy as AG, will honor states rights. Or will they send the DEA to all the "legal" states and kick down doors?! I believe individual growers don't have too much to fear as long as they are on the down low, but the commercial growers/ retailers could lose everything.

Agreed.

auma does nothing legally at the federal level, maybe only pressures the feds to stop their lies against cannabis...One important reason why auma needed to pass was to maximize social pressure on them.

Imagine if it had not passed, the shit they would spew would be sickening.

[sdd420]

Originally Posted by seeded

All you guys did was swap illegal cartels for legal ones. The restrictions placed upon home growing will ultimately make it impossible for individuals to legally compete as literally growing a single 10 pack of seeds and taking just a couple of cuttings from each plant could land you in jail. Ultimately it's a win for the little guys who just want to buy a few cuttings and grow in their backyard for free smoko but for everyone else you should consider the war on drugs not only still ongoing but now more focused on you than ever because soon you're going to be labelled tax dodgers, illicit suppliers to children and criminals, a safety hazard due to grow room fires and BHO explosions, etc. and the general public when faced with the ability to either buy it at shops or legally and freely grow their own at home will eat that shit up like we're personally attacking them for daring to step out of line.

Personally I think you've got to push for cannabis to be cultivated as a non-profit product to win tomato like legality for the plant. If you argue that profiteering similar to how the cartels ran things can only harm the people through unfair prices and legal issues if they go outside the monopolies to save money people might actually listen as everyone hates being ripped off. From there it's just a matter of arguing that we should be legally allowed to grow as much as our property can cultivate because supply vs demand will drastically lower prices and if you want to tag along some American dream ideals to really sell it say that one day home growing will be as cool as home brewing and when that day comes the free market competition between all the best growers and breeders will not only lead to fame and fortune for some but a surge in overall quality for everyone which beats over priced mediocre buds from legal cartels.

The main difference is now this is taxed tested etc. Just like beer wine etc. Your problem is you don't pay taxes and don't want to do the above . It's the price of doing business so get used to it. Most consumer items are tested and taxed. Good luck

[Amynamous]

[quote=armedoldhippy;7698144]there are not enough DEA to do the job by a LONG shot.

About 5 years ago, the DEA raided 9 or 10 state legal Medical Dispensaries. They were shut down, and everything inside was siezed. When the DEA wants to make a point, they will.

[HeriMarry]

Originally Posted by bombadil.360

Agreed.

auma does nothing legally at the federal level, maybe only pressures the feds to stop their lies against cannabis...One important reason why auma needed to pass was to maximize social pressure on them.

Imagine if it had not passed, the shit they would spew would be sickening.

Is there a way to get the DEA to either decriminalize or reclassify marijuana to maybe a class 3 drug? The US had republican controll in Washington DC An democrat control an still nothing. That DEA issue is still a main barrier to overcome. Maybe a constitutional convention might be the way to go to get it done. Any thoughts?

[BlindDate]

Don't worry about the big money outdoors. All we need to do is blow a little pollen their way to make them think twice.