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Old 10-31-2016, 04:05 AM #1
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Cinderella 99 The Come Back

UPDATED 8/2019
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CURRENT KEEPERS ARE FROM FDM SEED STOCK BUT I AM NOW TESTING PEAK SEEDS AND SOME OTHERS STILL WANTING A SWEETER MORE PRONOUNCED TASTE. DO NOT BE FOOLED BY MR SOUL HIS NEW99 IS A FAKE AND NOTHING LIKE ORIGINAL CINDY OR ANY OTHER CINDY FOR THAT MATTER.



This thread started as a search for my long Lost Holy Grail known as Cinderella 99. Over the past decade I have continued to keep searching. With most results leaving me with a great deal to be desired. Lots of times I wanted to just give up and look to new strains that it seems everyone is interested in and give up on what once was. Recent findings have given rise to a new feeling of hope. There is still a great deal to be done. The road we travel is long and rough but its not about the final destination its about what we experience and learn along the way that makes us who we are.

Still way out there and still on this Ultimate Search and Rescue Mission. I hope to start adding to this initial post to help get some important things combined into one space so will update here from time to time.

Important Notes:

I have run:
Original C99 2002
F2's
Gno3
Gno3 f2's
f3's
Dutchgrown f2
FMS C99
Mosca F1
Mosca Bx1
New BG c99
Joey Weed C99
Nuggetshiners Foundry C99
FDM C99 F3
Peak Seeds BC

An important note for those that are new to C99 and what this thread is really all about:

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Joey Weed description states - "You will get 99.9% of what you get from the original."

is this tested to be untrue?

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I believe Mr. Soul used to make that comment that she was true breeding and that JW probably included that in his own description as well.

BUT, if that were true we would all have plenty of super DANK c99 everywhere we looked would we not?

It comes down to the dominant and recessive alleles within each singular female and male plant which are bred to one another in 1:1 matings.

Conclusion:(just with regard to your question)
With regard to the most sought after characteristics of the Original Cinderella P.97 C99 plants, Grapefruit appears to be much more dominant within the line, than the more sweet and Tropical expressions. It may have been a case of too small a population left behind to breed with or it may be a case of seed makers chucking without testing. Facts are that most HS seed stock was depleted within months of the disappearance of Brothers Grimm Seeds. Additionally, most growers choose to cull all male plants, even then I find C99 to produce a higher ratio of females. Odds are that not enough males were kept to find a proper mating. Then comes standard breeding principles regarding dominant and recessive combinations.

I believe all 3 of these issues have played a role in the current state which we find the line in today.

Nevil believed strongly in 1:1 matings which takes ample time and loads of testing of progeny, while maintaining all males and females in clone form. BG originally took another route with the use of cubing the line. It took them 2.5 years to complete. Some things I have read from Gregor Mendel since that time lead me to believe that this cubing process may have been the cause of a degradation within the line to where we are now. This time BG tried to one off a line with 1 male and no testing and was destined for failure, either due to loss of Princess or due to no testing of the 1:1 mating. Most "breeders" of today are not breeding. But that's dependent on the individual and I am not calling anyone out its just my opinion. I have been guilty of that too in fact.

Current Keepers both selected from a few packs form FDM seeds.
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The 4 is my current fav it checks all the boxes, but the 1 is amazing too.




Good Vibrations,
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been waiting for someone to do just that, gotta get through my Mosca C99 before Bros Grimm gear gets grown out
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Oh yes!! Let's se whag these do! Wish you the best of luck
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I guarantee, regardless of what it looks like, no matter how dank it looks, you're going to have several people saying "hey that looks nothing like the C99 i grew!" (you know how it is these days, lol) ... but for me personally, as long as it has that unique uplifting energizing C99 high and that beautiful pineapple presence I'd be happy, that's all i'm after.
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if she holds the same quality as before, aestetics are worthless!
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