[paper thorn]

With less than 3 weeks to go...

Polls here in Arizona are holding at 50% ish FOR 205 and 42% OPPOSED.

I already cast my vote for it.

The lies by the antis are in full swing, so many people really don't know shit, I'm a bit worried.

All the people I talk to about it either are for it or depend on the news lady or anti 205 commercials for their opinion.

[igrowone]

i will join you in the hope, it sounds very promising
and in maine and in massachusetts and in california
4 more legal rec states could be the start of the avalanche

edit: left out nevada, make that 5

[Ralp]

The independent poll, by Phoenix-based Data Orbital, also shows Prop 205, the initiative that would legalize recreational marijuana in Arizona, is a tossup, with 45 percent of voters opposing it, 44 percent in support and 5 percent undecided.

[mofeta]

There is a more recent poll, with a larger sample size, that was conducted by better pollsters that shows a clear lead for Prop 205.

Data Orbital is just one guy, I don't think he has ever done any other polls.

The better poll to look at is the Arizona Republic/Morrison/Cronkite News poll done a few days after the sketchy Data Orbital one. It was done by the a large international polling/market research firm that has been around for over 50 years, in conjunction with Arizona State University. 50 percent for, 42 against, 8 undecided.

Poll: Arizona voters still favor legalizing marijuana

[Ralp]

One guy doing polls LMAO
Arizona Proposition 205 (2016)
Poll Support Oppose Undecided Margin of Error Sample Size
The Arizona Republic, Morrison, and Cronkite News
10/10/2016 - 10/15/2016 50.4% 41.6% 8.0% +/-4.0 811
HighGround Public Affairs
10/14/2016 49.8% 45.3% 4.9% +/-4.88 400
Data Orbital
10/11/2016 - 10/12/2016 44.0% 45.0% 11.0% +/-4.12 500
OH Predictive Insights
9/28/2016 - 9/30/2016 43.0% 47.0% 10.0% +/-3.66 718
OH Predictive Insights
8/24/2016 - 8/27/2016 40.0% 51.0% 9.0% +/-3.63 728
The Arizona Republic, Morrison, and Cronkite News
8/17/2016 - 8/31/2016 50.0% 40.0% 10.0% +/-3.4 784
The Arizona Republic
4/11/2016 - 4/14/2016 43.0% 49.0% 8.0% +/-4.0 500
AVERAGES 45.74% 45.56% 8.7% +/-3.96 634.43
Note: A "0%" finding means the candidate was not a part of the poll. The polls above may not reflect all polls that have been conducted in this race. Those displayed are a random sampling chosen by Ballotpedia staff. If you would like to nominate another poll for inclusion in the table, send an email to editor@ballotpedia.org.

[Ralp]

It has been floated around as rumor the Sheriff Joe Arpaio won't win re-election and Governor Ducey will appoint Joe Arpaio to this new department if it wins. Floating around the legislature now looking for support and gaining. It is the legislature that ratifies department heads.

[Ralp]

What some dont consider is the Arizona Republic, Morrison, Cronkite is a poll done by the Cronkite School of Journalism, which is on the ASU Campus, which there and the area around the University Metro Phoenix campus street polling. The Data Orbital is a phone canvas done primarily of the Peoria, Scottsdale, Mesa, which has a much higher voter turnout and done off of past voter rolls. Not a street canvas.

[mofeta]

Originally Posted by Ralp

One guy doing polls LMAO

Yes I am laughing at him too. His "data analysis and political consulting firm" has one employee- him. He is also a biased political operative:

Originally Posted by About George Khalaf, the Data Orbital guy

Most recently, he served as Political Director and State Victory Director at the Arizona Republican Party. In that role, George managed 12 field offices and oversaw all grassroots activity in a year that saw Republicans have a clean sweep of statewide offices and majorities in both chambers.

Prior to his time at the Republican Party, George served as Deputy Chief of Staff for Maricopa County Supervisor Denny Barney. In this role he was responsible for constituent services and worked directly with Supervisor Barney and the Chief of Staff.

Before coming to Maricopa County, George was an Associate at DC London where he helped manage a multi-million dollar field operation across 16 target states. Based in Washington DC for the Presidential cycle, he trained field operatives in battleground states on cutting edge technology and grassroots operations.

Denny Barney is a hard right Republican, this is him.

DC London is a hard right political firm, working hard to advance the Republican agenda, here is their Facebook page.

The testimonials on his website are from Mark Brnovich, the rabidly anti-marijuana Republican Attorney General of AZ and from Citizen Link, a religious, right-wing political organization that is about as anti-marijuana as you can be. This is them.

So, just to be clear, Data Orbital is a one man operation. He is a biased political hack. He is virulently anti-marijuana and anti-liberty. His poll is propaganda, it is crap.

[mofeta]

Originally Posted by Ralp

What some dont consider is the Arizona Republic, Morrison, Cronkite is a poll done by the Cronkite School of Journalism, which is on the ASU Campus, which there and the area around the University Metro Phoenix campus street polling. The Data Orbital is a phone canvas done primarily of the Peoria, Scottsdale, Mesa, which has a much higher voter turnout and done off of past voter rolls. Not a street canvas.

Complete disinformation. Here is the truth:

Originally Posted by About the Arizona Republic/Morrison/Cronkite News poll

The Arizona Republic collaborated with Arizona State University’s Morrison Institute for Public Policy and Cronkite News at ASU's Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication for this poll, jointly selecting topics and developing the questions. Behavior Research Center, a Phoenix-based marketing and public-opinion research firm, was hired to collect the data.

From Oct. 10 to Oct. 15, poll-takers conducted live telephone interviews, asking questions of likely Arizona voters from across the state. On average, 811 voters responded to each of the poll questions.

The voters were identified using an updated voter-registration database, including voters who registered for Arizona’s August primary. The statewide sample was weighted to represent the demographics of Arizona’s registered voters.

The sample used phone numbers reported by the registered voters themselves. (Whether the number was for a landline or cellphone is unknown.) If needed, the 27-question survey was conducted in Spanish.

About the Arizona Republic/Morrison/Cronkite News poll

I noticed this part of your post:

Originally Posted by Ralp

The Data Orbital is a phone canvas done primarily of the Peoria, Scottsdale, Mesa, which has a much higher voter turnout and done off of past voter rolls. Not a street canvas.

This is very detailed knowledge of the Data Orbital "poll". The only publicly available demographic info on this poll only lists by congressional district.

Hmm, knows behind the scene details of a anti-marijuana propaganda poll, spreads anti-marijuana disinformation trying to demoralize pro-marijuana folks....

[Ralp]

take a minute listen for yourself this is a radio program done by patient in Tucson.

https://www.blogtalkradio.com/weedsda...nal-discussion