[sadpanda]

unfortunately i havent been able to grow for over half a decade now. I use CBD oil very effectively to eliminate (not reduce but eliminate) seizures, and because the Australian government is keeping cannabis illegal it means only the black market criminals make money out of it. That's 1930's politics i guess. Ive been able to find a local CBD oil source but to get buds my only option is the dark web. If laws were common sense i could of course simply grow my own, but because laws are <whatever they are> my only option is to buy from criminals on the dark web. I don't even drink alcohol so dont give me "or you could just not smoke pot", this is my "vice", my only vice, and the govt should be thanking me its my only vice.

Anyway I've bought maybe twenty different 'vendors' at darkweb sites over several years, and nearly all of them - the quality of the buds that is - were EXTREMELY MEDIOCRE, despite lots of "awesome buds! 5/5" comments. And it blows my mind! ... if you're going to grow a strain why not grow something seriously fucken GOOD and STRONG!? and its not like seeds are hard to get!!! and there's so many awesome strains in 2016!!! so it makes no sense to me why so much of whats on offer is really ordinary gear.

So sadly that's the situation :( of course there are some good vendors out there but most charge through the roof, it's hard to find good buds at decent price.

On another note though, i did get to do some Thin Layer Chromatography testing (we had to figure TLC out for a friend battling cancer who needs to know if her plants have high CBD and low THC).

Here's a TLC run done from 5 different Aussie darkweb vendors/strains:

(both plates consist of the same samples, ie lane 1 is the same on both, they're just sitting in a different solvent bath/eluent)

The three middle lanes are all pretty stock standard medium-high THC levels (the big red dot), while lane 1 on the far left also exhibits some THCV, and lane 5 on the right expressing not just higher THC levels but also CBG (bright yellow-orange dot below the red one), so variety clearly isn't a problem... just quality (not a problem for Aussie icmag'ers though!)

[pop_rocks]

just curious...

do you think this weed is grown locally or imported?

[sadpanda]

the strains i sampled were grown locally for sure, just smalltime vendors, mostly grow themselves or know the grower. There are some bulk Aussie vendors but im pretty sure they're local grown also. Does anyone actually import (bulk) weed into Australia these days!?!? i know there was some Thai back in the 90s, high school wouldnt have been the same without it

[pop_rocks]

indoor/outdoor?

that is interesting because usually smaller local growers put more time and love into their crops
assuming decent genetics, the results are usually very nice
if nothing else, they should be way fresher and less beat up than your typical imported brick weed

[Globule]

I'm trying to find a question in there that I can spew forth my verbal diahorreah upon sadpanda, but it sounds to me that what you really need to just start growing your own cannabis and turning it into oil yourself to avoid future disappointment.

Confusing that you would risk so much scoring weed on the "darkweb" rather than find some way to grow your own. I grew enough to supply my personal needs in a 2'x3' footprint for years.

This website is great at assisting you with growing no matter what your situation.

Good luck with getting some quality cannabis into your life.

[sadpanda]

poprocks: pretty sure they were all indoors, just a bit hard to tell with one

Globule: ........ so you actually think i wouldn't be growing now if i couldn't?!? someones glass is half full i have rent inspections every 3mo and im in an apartment complex, ok it's only 99% impossible to pull off so its doable but it's 101% unpractical and a lot of risk and work to grow tiny amounts. In the future yes, as soon as possible obviously, but i simply cant now! should have a local soon tho by the looks so thatll be easier and hopefully better Q

[Globule]

Hey sadpanda

I re-read my post this morning and I came across like a bit of a dickhead. Sorry about that.

What I meant to say is that this is a website that is focused with growing cannabis rather than buying/selling it online.

I know I'm simplifying it and there's heaps of reasons why a lot of people can't grow given their situation and it's none of my business really.
However, many people successfully disguise their grow cabinets using stealth techniques (and just turn off power temporarily during inspections to avoid fan noise, etc.) or do a bit of guerilla growing outside somewhere.

Just seemed to me you are taking so much risk dealing with strangers online to get your weed, when a less risky approach would be to grow your own, and this website is definitely the place to get help doing that.

I think what you're finding is that many commercial growers are concerned with growing as much cannabis as possible in the shortest time possible. So that means most of the time buds would be picked early before they reach their peak (like most fruit you get in the large chain supermarkets) rather than wait another 2-3 weeks for the plants to properly finish.

It would also work in the dealer's favour if the cannabis was not so strong so you keep coming back to buy more all the time

Anyway, that TLC stuff looks intersting stuff. Thanks for the info and good luck getting quality cannabis into your life (and I mean that in a non-dickhead way)

Cheers!

[taslicker]

i agree with Globule that your at less risk by growing your own.
can i suggest that an Auto Feminised grow started at the time of an inspection would be finished before the next.
a small cab with cfls and a small extractor with can filter would be able to run inside the unit without even venting to outside and be virtually undetectable.
there are lots of grows in old bar fridges and small stand alone cabinets.
this a picture (not mine. i pulled it from another site so i cant claim the credit for this excellent grow). its one plant, inside in a one square foot floor space, inside an old speaker box.
its done with 4 x 24 watt cfl globes.



with venting out the back its totally stealth.
consider it, its doable for you if you want to make the effort.
but i should warm you that growing weed is addictive.

[sadpanda]

*slowly headbutts keyboard*

[VonBudí]

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Originally Posted by Chimera

With all due respect to the effort that went into arranging the tests etc, these results are absolutely and completely bogus.

TLC or thin layer chromatography is absolutely not quantitative; meaning you can't put numbers to the results, let alone accurate or meaningful ones. "Pixel quantification software", is nothing more than counting dots on a screen by a computer; any perceived difference between the spot sizes on the TLC plates is likely due to sample loading error, weighing inaccuracies or matrix effects of the extraction.

TLC is very imprecise, to the point that first year chemistry students are taught that it should only be used for qualitative purposes, or screening for the presence or absence of compounds. That 'TestLabs Amsterdam' even tries to suggest any quantitative results are possible from the methodology is troubling.

The degree of error for this type of test is huge; the variation between the samples is much more likely to be due to sample preparation errors than an actual difference in the samples. The most information that could really be drawn from this set of results is that 'all of the plants entered were chemotype I, or THC predominant'.

Otherwise, these results are really meaningless, and that is coming from someone who has screened hundreds of individuals and thousands of samples with both HPLC and GC. Sorry to be a downer on the parade, however you guys should know the truth about the results before you start hearing people running around claiming any validity to these results.

Respectfully,
-Chimera