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Week 23 – 1 October.

Unfortunately I was pushed by several reasons to start to harvest earlier then it would be ideal.

Grey botrytis was devastating Diesel pheno and one more week would probably spoil all reasonable buds.

Caramel pheno was not affected much by Grey botrytis, but those bloody caterpillars decided to take over the plant. Interesting fact is, the on Diesel pheno there was found just about 20% of caterpillars then on Caramel pheno.

Pre-harvest pics Caramel pheno:

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Pre-harvest pics Diesel pheno:

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Diesel pheno – victims of grey botrytis

Here you can see how huge nugs D pheno produced. It lays on 5l ewer. This makes one almost cry..

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Originally Posted by squatty

I was having big problems with caterpillars until I sprayed with bti. They stop eating immediately and die slowly in the plant. The caterpillar shit doesn't seem to rot after foliar spraying with bti and I can find the caterpillars and remove them. Much less rot and damage now.

Thank you Squatty!

I was already thinking if and what to use next year in case those caterpillars appear again. I am quite conservative to spray my plants with anything, but those little bastards made me angry! How old are your plants when you apply Bti please? You spray only leafs or buds as well? I would be probably concerned to spray quite developed buds and still enjoy my vaping afterwards. I am organic weed nerd

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Cream Mandarine FV Diesel pheno:

It is tall, Xmass tree shape plant. In unlimited soil, with no topping would touch 3metres with no problem. Branches keep sharp angle with main stem, leaves keep sharp angle with branches. Medium internodes. At 50 north lat it started to flower around 10 Aug. Under regular Biobizz fertile regime produces long fat nugs with long hair. My guess of ideal harvest is 10-12 Oct. Quite sensitive to grey botrytis. Intensive smell of maturing buds, mainly Chem and petroleum tones.

In my case grey botrytis (inner budrot) spoiled almost all main nugs. IMO those were so rich developed that the humidity was not able to dry in the buds and they started to rot from inside. Even though that September in my region was not rich for rain, the morning dew was this year very strong, garden stayed wet from 10pm to 11am. I have experienced same with Frisian Dew DP several years ago, when I was able to grow really huge long buds but majority got inner budrot. Solution would be application of something preventing budrot, but I try to avoid spraying anything on developing buds. So this pheno IMO is more suitable for dryer climates then mine. I believe that in hands of Indoor guys, who now how to keep their plant in right conditions to prevent budrot, could Diesel phenol perform great as well.

This is all I have gained from this plant, I guess about 35% of possible yield.


Solid plant base:


Rootball:

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Cream Mandarine FV Caramel pheno:

It is big, bushy plant. Rich side branching. Something between medium and short internodes. In unlimited soil, no topping, would definitelly go above 2.5 metres. At 50 north lat it started to flower around 5 Aug. Under regular Biobizz fertile regime it produces rich buds, but with more open structure then D pheno. Hair are shorter. My guess of ideal harvest is around 7 Oct. It is more resistant to budrot, in my eyes way more suitable pheno for colder and humid climate. Intensive petroleum smell, definitely not sweet, honey or fruity. About 20% of yield lost, where majority caused by caterpillars.

Solid plant base:


Rootball:

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If you are less or inexperienced grower at all, first try Sweet Skunk FV. Easy to grow and maturing little bit earlier. More info here: https://www.icmag.com/modules/ICStra...wreport&id=718

Those who are looking for more “exotic” Fast version for 50 lat and above, go for Caramel pheno. Regarding overall performance and climate resistance it is closer to Sweet Skunk FV.

Experienced northern outdoor growers (or indoor guys) try Diesel pheno as well and let me know about your results please

IMO it might easy to distinguish both phenos. Diesel one was taller and faster then Caramel from early beginning. You can see it here on pics from week 3 and 5 (D pheno always on right side):

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Originally Posted by Zefy

Yeas, you can use LST on Sweet Cheese FV, it is very vigorous plant, first one germinated and grew very fast, notice that they don't like small pots, transplant them couple of times or use pots big enough...about end product I can't tell you much because is still drying, but buds are compact, very stinky & sticky

Hey Zefy, you make me really curious to see the pics of your plants. Just bring it on dear colleague

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Here are some pics
I'm guerilla grower, my girls are most of the time on their own...

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28.8. left is sweet cheese, right durban poison




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27.9.


about endproduct, gonna tell you in few weeks, when they are dried and cured

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Great guerilla Zefy!

It seems that Durban was faster then Cheese, right? I ran Durban few years ago, it performed very well and was done late Sep. What date you cut them down?

Yes sure, I will properly cure as well before I bring smoke report for Mandarine. 2 months I consider as ideal. Get rid of all chlorophyll, we got the same plan buddy