[MJPassion]

Originally Posted by FireIn.TheSky

Ah ok so to gain the most freedom an protection. It's best to be a med patient under legalization.
Absolutely NOT!!!

I figure under legalization MJ growing becomes so common you basically have to really stand out to get any heat.

That contract does not protect you. I leaves a paper trail that includes your name, address, medical conditions being treated for, as well as other Constitutionally protected information, in the hands of your controllers. Would you want to risk having this information disseminated such that Calaveras County did to all its licensed growers last Wednesday?

Any claims that the list is confidential are made in vain.
After a few patients I know got their papers, the fly overs started happening more & more frequently.

[weedaholic721]

@Mjpassion if I can legally find where they manufacture gold bricks and legal pharmaceuticals and who runs them , why wouldn't you be able to find the growers producing the product I inhale into my lungs. With legal grows, you can have modern security systems and armed guards.

Hiding from the consumers you sell from is prohibiton based. It limits competition and choice. That is something you see here on Corado. While I can find every legal grow through the state websites, most have producers are using a separate business name to the ones they sell under. It is also the case the most produces don't brand their cannabis and just gets sold as the dispensaries product.

This leads to everytime you buy it is a shot in thr dark. By following producers, the consumer can find trusted brands. It also allows the consumer to take legal action against unscrupulous producers. Transparency is key to trusting a product that is consumed daily.

[FireIn.TheSky]

Originally Posted by MJPassion

That contract does not protect you. I leaves a paper trail that includes your name, address, medical conditions being treated for, as well as other Constitutionally protected information, in the hands of your controllers. Would you want to risk having this information disseminated such that Calaveras County did to all its licensed growers last Wednesday?

Any claims that the list is confidential are made in vain.
After a few patients I know got their papers, the fly overs started happening more & more frequently.

Excellent point's MJ.

If you tell them exactly where to look they are more likely to swing by and do "compliance" checks. Under straight legalization they don't really have a concrete "yes there is out of compliance MJ" there or MJ there at all since legalization grants the right to grow to everyone.

I can see how guerilla grows could still be quite popular in a legalized state. This would allow you to have small plots hidden. And never exceed legal limits at any one time.

[ReikoX]

I think plant counts are a prohibition based model. It is ridiculous that I can grow six trees and harvest pounds, but I can't grow a 30 clone SOG and harvest several ounces. And who picks these numbers? Why six? Why not five or seven? Plant counts are ridiculous.

[FireIn.TheSky]

It just goes to show that the ones that make the laws really have no clue about how marijuana is actually grown and realistically they probably don't care.

I guess the hard part of writing a law like this is accomodating everybody and every style so they just say six because it's a safe number.

Most noob/personar growers would probably be content with 6 plants and with a 6 plant limit probably the minority of growers will try to blow the doors off with 6 school bus sized plants especially with such tight restrictions on outdoor cultivation. And if you want to do more than their limit you either pay them tons in licensing fees or your back to being a criminal.

[BOMBAYCAT]

It seems like a 6 plant count is enough smoke for one person. It gives me a little extra to give to friends to test potency. I have to start more to get the 50% ration of female sex or else fill out my number with some clones. It is way not enough to select for breeding purposes though. Trimming and grooming is getting to be a chore so I am glad there is a 6 plant limit. If it was more I sure would grow more. I would choose different varieties that finish at different times though, so the trimming would be spread out.

[Vernalization]

whats the penalty for going over plant count?

[Douglas.Curtis]

Originally Posted by Vernalization

whats the penalty for going over plant count?

It probably depends on the grower. I have no idea what the fine is. I've watched county deputies laugh and walk away from a grower with 30+ more plants than their paperwork said was allowed.

You get busted offloading for sale and they WILL bust you for tax evasion and whatever else is on the books. You're basically stealing from the state/county/city you live in.

[Betterhaff]

Originally Posted by ReikoX

I think plant counts are a prohibition based model. It is ridiculous that I can grow six trees and harvest pounds, but I can't grow a 30 clone SOG and harvest several ounces. And who picks these numbers? Why six? Why not five or seven? Plant counts are ridiculous.

Good point.

Originally Posted by BOMBAYCAT

I have to start more to get the 50% ration of female sex or else fill out my number with some clones. It is way not enough to select for breeding purposes though.

Yeah, I always thought the plant count thing was ridiculous, need to set some kind of limits I guess. Pheno hunting, growing from seed with regular types, variety, and breeding if so inclined…all reasons plant counts are not the best but as mentioned the people writing the laws don’t really have an understanding of what it takes.

[geneva_sativa]

Originally Posted by Vernalization

whats the penalty for going over plant count?

This from Norml website :

Cultivation
There is no penalty in Colorado for persons who privately cultivate up to 6 marijuana plants, with no more than 3 being mature.
See
Colo. Const. Art. XVIII, Section 16(3) Web Search
The cultivation of 6 plants or fewer is a level 1 drug misdemeanor punishable by 6-18 months imprisonment as well as a fine between $500-$5,000, if not at least 21 years of age.
The cultivation of more than 6 but not more than 30 plants is a level 4 drug felony punishable by 6 months - 2 imprisonment as well as a fine between $1,000-$100,000.
The cultivation of more than 30 plants is a level 3 drug felony punishable by 2-6 years imprisonment as well as a fine between $2,000-$500,000.
See
§ 18-1.3-401.5 Web Search
§ 18-1.3-501 Web Search
18-18-406(3) of the Colorado Revised Statutes Web Search