[FireIn.TheSky]

Hey I was wondering how growers in legal states feel about plant number restrictions on the average home grower?

I am mainly using Colorado as an example here with their 6 plant limit for home growers but other legal growers can chime in too. Please no Medical Marijuana growers however, I am interesting in legal only.

Now is this 6 plants per adult over the age of 21 in a household? or is this 6 plants total for that property?

Do you adhere to the 6 plant limit or do you grow a moderate number more, lets say 20? Is anyone getting in trouble for growing more than 6 plants?

How is the black market doing? Do people still buy from the in state black market? Im not talking about shipping to other states, I am wondering if CO residents still buy from the black market?

How is the quality of legal MJ sold in stores?

[aridbud]

Im not talking about shipping to other states, I am wondering if CO residents still buy from the black market?


Yes.

Now is this 6 plants per adult over the age of 21 in a household?
Yes. You can have 12 plants per residence.
Is anyone getting in trouble for growing more than 6 plants?
Reports of those being over zealous.

How is the quality of legal MJ sold in stores?
That's why there is a black market in COLO.

[FireIn.TheSky]

So are most people doing 6 plants? Legalization is ok I guess but 6 plants in St really that much.

I'd like legalization better if they allowed 20-30 plants. 6 plants is only good if you grow trees and it's not very good for pheno hunting.

I know they are trying to deter unlicensed commercial growing but what they lose sight of is not everyone grows for large profits.

[Siro]

Originally Posted by FireIn.TheSky

I know they are trying to deter unlicensed commercial growing but what they lose sight of is not everyone grows for large profits.

Thats the thing, though. They dont want you to grow for any profit if you're unlicensed. They want to tax all of it, or you can't play ball. So 6 it is, low enough to keep any law abiding small timer in check. If they were smart, and there was a true free market, they would lower the price of licenses so anyone who wanted one could basically get one, and then let the market pick the winners and losers.

Instead the gov't artificially restricts access and you end up with shitty rec stores no one in state wants to buy from and there's no alternative but black market. It's a joke.

Legalization, at least the way most current legislation for it has been written like AUMA in Cali, Question 2 & 4 in ME and MA, etc is really a massive redistribution of wealth, from middle class/working class mom/pop growers to big time corporate outfits. Don't hear any rich people complaining about this kind of "socialism", though.

[FireIn.TheSky]

Realistically you could make a good profit from 6 plants if you grew them huge and plopped like a 1k over each one of them.

I think 6 plants kind of sucks because I like to pheno hunt and will have a good deal more than that in veg even though I only run a few lights. I generally like many small plants vs just a few large ones.

In just thinking under legalization basically they arent hunting people down anymore, so if you fudge your numbers a bit no one really cares unless your like filling you entire house.

I kind of feel large producers just pick up the market share of the cartels with mediocre quality and pushing large quantities, I could be wrong though.

[aridbud]

I kind of feel large producers just pick up the market share of the cartels with mediocre quality and pushing large quantities, I could be wrong though.

Dispensaries grow for profit....and use whatever means to do that- pesticides, growth hormones, etc. And not being cured bud, pretty much mediocre selections. But for those that do not grow, it provides a good alternative.

Some don't have the hook up to growers (black market).

[Douglas.Curtis]

Plant limits make money for the supporting industries, like power, nutrient, medium suppliers. Takes 3 months of light, water, nutes to grow some cuts to harvest, plant limits drastically increase these needs, for the same yield.

Yes, plant limits make pheno hunting unrealistic.

[weedaholic721]

You cannot exclude medical when speaking of legalization in Colorado. Recreational disp mostly sell to tourist and weekend smokers. As these people wI'll most like never grow, six plants is more then enough. Now most residents who are regular smokers can easily get a doc recommendation for up to 75 plants.

You cannot have a free market under federal prohibition . None of the cannabis would stay in state and would be shipped out to illegal states.

[FireIn.TheSky]

Ah ok so to gain the most freedom an protection. It's best to be a med patient under legalization.

I figure under legalization MJ growing becomes so common you basically have to really stand out to get any heat.

[MJPassion]

Originally Posted by weedaholic721

You cannot have a free market under federal prohibition . None of the cannabis would stay in state and would be shipped out to illegal states.

That's the other states problem for restricting the freedoms of their citizens. NOT a FREE states problem!

Anyway, to give my perspective:
I think that plant counts are proof that we aren't legal but still rather PROHIBITED in what we can do with our day to day lives.

I'd also phathom that medical folks with extended plant counts are exporting & adding to the local black market way more than rec growers. For some reason, they think they'll be protected by a contract they signed with the state. It's my opinion that MED should be all over these grows, ensuring that the contracts are being followed.

After all, I don't have a contract w the state & I refuse to ask their permission to do as I please so long as my actions are not to the detriment of the Rights of others!