[PauliBhoy]

Originally Posted by PDX Dopesmoker

Delicious substitute, probably the most expensive legal plant by weight & worth every penny.

Maybe, or maybe not:

Big Island Tea sells for $4800/lb at Harrods



The difference is that saffron takes around 70,000 crocus flowers to make a pound, and they bloom just once per season. At $10-$30/gram that works out to around $20K-$60K/acre/year if you can sell direct. Wholesaling it will work out to around 1/3 that, or $14,000/acre/year, on average.

Tea can produce 400 lbs or so per acre in the tropics. If you can retail it all at that price, you're looking at close to $2 million annually. At 1/3 wholesale price it works out to around $650,000/acre/year

In a lighted warehouse or greenhouse using continuous production with CO2 and an average yield of 50g/sq ft and the low low wholesale price of $1500/lb, it works out to almost $40 million/acre/year. At retail prices that's easily worth over $100 million.


Let's put this all into some perspective. US Federal law allows for the production of 100 gallons of beer or wine per adult in a household up to two adults. This has a retail market value of around $1400 per adult.

In most tobacco growing states, the amount one can grow for personal use is limited. In North Carolina, for example, one can only grow 0.2 acres for personal use. Given average yields of tobacco, that works out to around 450 lbs, with a retail value of around $4,500 (based on current prices for pipe tobacco) if one can at least process it into a smokeable product. Unprocessed, it's probably worth 1/3 that, around the same value as the beer or wine one adult can legally produce in a year.

So if we're being consistent, One adult should be able to produce around $1500 worth of weed annually for personal recreational use. Undoubtedly those with medical need should be able to produce more, as needed, at least until it's covered by insurance.

[bluntmassa]

Originally Posted by soil margin

Yes anyone who makes a point you can't refute is a troll. Keep believing that.

The shows over they know we are Russian paid trolls no way anyone can be for the legalization of marijuana on a marijuana forum.....



Yeah, they are scared of change the true warriors embrace the change because I don't give a fuck if Philip Morris buys into the cannabis industry. I can grow as much tobacco as I damn well please just can't sell it the biggest fuck in the ass is going to come when the realization hit's that weed is not worth much if any more than tobacco for the people making a living on the black/grey market. Buds do weigh more than leaves after all I bet weed will yield more than tobacco per acre of land.

It's going to free the weed but put majority out of business which is fine by me though I don't make a living off of weed I needed some legal income and I do alright with legal business. But the days of the drop out making big money in rentals is coming to an end that's why people fear legalization. They want money from the sick they actually charge children like that Charlotte's Web girl money for life saving medication and don't feel bad about it one bit. Greedy bastards in this game they should feel ashamed. I don't even care if they give to charity like Subcool the only reason he can give toys to poor families is because he's over charging people in need of medicine the people in bigger need of charity.

But I give weed to sick people who need it I got enough money but I'm far from rich. Respect and honor goes further than greed but greedy men rule the world with greedy people who will kill for money that isn't real to begin with.

[bluntmassa]

Originally Posted by baduy

I fail to see why cannabis should be meant for a different treatment than any other crop held by big company.
Everybody in the world is eating exactly the same banana Cavendish, does it mean that customers wanted specifically to have Cavendish? Of course it doesn't. Are Delmonte's gigantic pineapple fields giving better pineapples than the ones you find in villages? No again. Is it by popular demand that all intensively grown corn is the same F1 anywhere you go? Did the public ask for gamma irradiated cabbage? I could keep on forever doing this.
Nothing easier for a big firm than making the public put up with low quality products, you just need to wait one generation et voila! Plenty of new customers who have never known anything else.
Can you just imagine the reaction of your ancesters if they could have a look inside your fridge?

My ancestors would be proud I hunt and farm most of what I eat chemical free. It's people who buy shit that are the problem get out of your little city apartment and buy some land it's that simple. Don't have much money the Midwest is really cheap cheaper than any apartment in a city.

Are we really such pansies that we must live coddled in a concrete jungle because bears are scary? We have fucking guns and dogs and I have bear meat in my freezer! City folk are just sad. Lol

[bluntmassa]

Originally Posted by shaggyballs

Just follow the cash trail in Cali. time will tell and history usually repeats itself.

Only if you let it my native ancestors didn't have kings and queens they left the gold on the ground in California because it is a soft worthless metal that men lived in peace without for thousands of years until white people came to America with thousands of years of war experience and an ignorant ideology that some people are better than others. The same ideology of voting for someone to lead the country we are supposed to be free yet they can force our children to fight a war that doesn't matter like Vietnam.

Until the ideology of the ignorant is destroyed yes history will repeat itself but only because humans are not very smart and are greedy as fuck. But with all the Socialism crap we are actually moving forward kind of Hillary Clinton sure fucked us by rigging the primary and owning the media.

[Mukind]

Originally Posted by geneva_sativa

wrong

coffee just a plant

truffles too hombre,

has to do with desirability. . .

doesn't take a genius mang

Coffee can only be grown on a very small percentage of this earth

Cannabis does not have that problem

I don't think you have any idea what a truffle is...lol

Idiot

And to whoever said saffron just look at a saffron field and you'll know what it's expensive, they grow tiny little flowers. Not very efficient

[geneva_sativa]

Cheers man,

way to revert to name calling !

[bluntmassa]

Originally Posted by Mukind

Coffee can only be grown on a very small percentage of this earth

Cannabis does not have that problem

I don't think you have any idea what a truffle is...lol

Idiot

And to whoever said saffron just look at a saffron field and you'll know what it's expensive, they grow tiny little flowers. Not very efficient

Shit, coffee isn't even very expensive unless maybe you go to Starbucks. Also it's a bean and doesn't produce no where near the weight of cannabis per acre. Not to mention in Jamaica it's extremely cheap and that's before decriminalization if they didn't actually legalize last I knew there was talk about legalization.

I'd be happy with some dank Jamaican sativa properly cured and just not too seedy of course there are going to be some seeds in Jamaican outdoor but as long as they are far enough from pollen chuckers it won't be too seedy. But the biggest thing I'm looking forward to is import hash which is very cheap in the growing regions even with it being illegal. Legally they will do much bigger and better Afghanistan will actually have one hell of a brand name and they can sure use the money in a legitimate business. It will probably cut the opium production in half too. No more Al Qaeda hash sales it should be in the hands of the farmers anyway.

The price of weed will definitely drop substantially but over all it will put many more people to work around the world and keep the money out of the hands of gangsters. The Hell's Angel's make a fortune off of weed alone we don't need that kind of business they kill people all the time not to mention all the other gangs that make a lot of money from herb.

But I also think heroin should be legalized and taxed but the tax money used to educate our children about drugs and to provide free state run rehab centers. Of course all other drugs too all dosed out per MG to prevent accidental overdoses.

[AmericanShamen]

I have a Feeling that the seed industry will soon be heavily regulated soon or around 2017 .. i hoping to get some generic old school strains {before seed banks go regulated or tightly controlled}

White widow , Skunk , NL , Maple leaf indica , Haze , 100% sativa L.R , And 100% indica afghan and paki.and some CBD heavy strains two . to make my own seeds and save alot i just have a feeling . not trying to fear monger

[armedoldhippy]

Originally Posted by AmericanShamen

I have a Feeling that the seed industry will soon be heavily regulated soon or around 2017 .. i hoping to get some generic old school strains {before seed banks go regulated or tightly controlled}

White widow , Skunk , NL , Maple leaf indica , Haze , 100% sativa L.R , And 100% indica afghan and paki.and some CBD heavy strains two . to make my own seeds and save alot i just have a feeling . not trying to fear monger

heavily regulated? you mean "illegal" like it is here, now?

[Slipnot]

Originally Posted by shaggyballs

I say "A plant in every yard!"
No regulations, no taxes if there is no sale or donation.
Just "Grow your own and leave me alone."

Shag

Agreed one plant per yard no sales and no taxes
You get caught selling its big time problems for you ..

But that is not the real problem i sense every stoner wants or thinks he should be able to grow a ton of weed and profit from it forget paying tax right ..
there last ditch effort from leaving the poverty line, and this screwed there means to achieve there goals

Its going to be a awake up call shortly , Tuolumne county just banned commercial growing yesterday

Bottom line is everyone in the cannabis industry in California should have seen this coming for a loooong time if they were paying attention. The narrow defeat of pop 19 in 2010 was a big wake up call, or at least it was for us. California was the last state on the entire West Coast not to legalize, it was never a question of "if" but when. We have had a lot of years to prepare for this.

When MCRSA passed over a year ago it should have been pretty damn obvious that there was a strong possibility that full legalization was going to happen by 2016 or 2018. Even if it did not happen with prop 64, the medical cannabis industry was going to become regulated, one way or another by 2018. It baffles me that some people act like this just snuck up on them out of nowhere.