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Old 09-11-2016, 06:16 PM #1
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2016 Shipping container hybrid building

Here's the plan:

2- 20 shipping containers (8'x8'x20' ea.)
a 10'-12' space between.
Roof over entire structure, possible loft on one side.
entire building insulated and sided with rough sawn pine boards.
Gravel base on top of ground.

This space will be used for:
Drying of sungrown product
Trimming "
Bagging "
Moisture management "
Storage "

Production of indoor product as well.

There is a 100amp panel and #4 copper service being run to the site now.

One container will house an 8kw grow. I may use aircooled 1 kw hps that I own now, once I get in the swing I may install 315 watt ceramic metal halide in the other container. The CMD bulbs may have the perfect footprint for this project. I will put a 3' row down each side and have about 18-20" walkway in the center.

2.5 ton mini split and air exchange every 2.5 minutes

I'll be using lab tested living soil in beds, watered by microsprinklers. Any ancillary equipment may be installed outside or on top of the container, reservoirs ballasts etc.

Spray foam seems to be the insulation of choice for containers. The foam bonds to the steel to prevent condensation. I have not found a local spray foam contractor yet. google says prices are $.44-.$.65 per board foot applied. On the high side that works out to $832 per container to spray 1" thick. DIY tiger foam is $.64/ board foot. I've seen where folks only spray the ceiling and then add rigid foam to the ceiling and the walls. I have the option to insulate the outside as well.

More to come. Schematics etc. give me your input!
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Are you sure you're not zoned rural residential or res-ag? You could possibly get a variance if you're not in a subdivision. I'm not sure where you are but R zones are rare in these parts.

Anyway it doesn't matter much. Shipping containers are usually not considered buildings, they have their own permit in some communities though. Damned if I'm getting one.

What's really in compliance anyway? Shoot, Shovel, Shut up.

Got the panel installed.


Called and ordered a rental Takeuchi TL-140 Rubber Track Loader. Some might say bobcat with tracks. I made sure to get the 80 horse rig for pushing more dirt and brush and moving the containers. I had to fill out a credit app this time. That was just this particular more commercial rental outfit. I have an LLC that's listed with Dun & Bradstreet so that should pan out and have the machine Thursday.

I'll be usings a trenching attachment for putting in pipes, bucket for earth moving and spreading gravel, an auger for installing fence posts, and possibly a brush grapple for moving...well brush.

Trying to chase down alternative options for CMH ballasts, I've read about $35 magnetic ballasts (without enclosures, wire etc)
and Mogul base CMH bulbs that would fit in normal hps/mh fixtures. Things like this would really help offset the cost of using more lights to get the job done.

I think I could use 6-7 315 watt CMH lights per side of the container. Assuming a footprint of 3x3ish a Total of 14 lights would only be 4400 watts. That's huge power savings

HPS container would be 8000 watts or 50 watts/sq ft

CMH container would be 4400 watts or 27.5 watts/ sq ft

I'll have to dig through some more threads, I was reading that 35-40 watts/sq ft CMH equals 50 Watts/sq ft HPS.
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Old 09-18-2016, 04:52 PM #8
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Here's an update. Got a subpanel installed on my existing shed, it's for veg and living quarters for worker. Running another underground from that panel to shipping container. I was able to dig a 2' deep ditch for pipe with the toothed bucket on this machine. It's an 80hp rubber tracked loader, a smaller machine wouldn't handle these jobs well.

I dug a terrace out with the rental track loader and pushed the 1st container up and in on log rollers. I got some 2" crushed stone and put it in the area that will be between the containers as a floor.

The second container will be arriving early this week.

It's a lot less hidden than I thought, this always happens. A few more trees get taken out...
I look forward to getting it painted. Intend to side it, but it feels like a winter project. Maybe a shot of brown primer will mellow the look.

I'll post some pics when I get on a PC.
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I would love pics of the project for sure.....

How much of the work are you doing, and how much is hired out? I have been doing 100% of all my projects, and I am tired. Need to start hiring reliable subs.

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Well I got an old stoner electrican and his helper doing the electrical. They are working on trade for herb and clones now.

I called in some helpers but they are flaked. I've been working long days, it's hella dusty so I haven't brought out the camera. I'll get some pics.

It's just me running the machine now until it goes back. I'm clearing a fenceline and moving some brush. I'm making some tent sites for trimmers. My girlfriend wants a spot for a 60' round pen, but with how steep our land is we'll need a good erosion control plan and at least a water truck this time of year to get the dirt to stay put.
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