[wasgedn]

microfauna is the most important..imho
when farming on healthy no till soil even big mono fields need no chems...
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...wn+healty+soil

in europe all the good organic pestizids musst be labelt different then all the chems..so i got mk5 from multikraft which is not labelt as pestizid but it is...a organic pestizid..you can only kno that from ingredients which are listed on bottle...
EDIT and cause of the dead gnats after using ....

[Aether]

Originally Posted by St. Phatty

Monsanto is happy to experiment on our children.


Doesn't mean we should let them.

Yeah, an open question mark how close-by gmo crops affect eg. landraces..

Though mutations are normal in plants too but..who knows!

[Aether]

[quote=rod58;7814368]

Originally Posted by Aether

Interesting book!

Lot's of talk about the hazards of some of the pesticides and even chemical fertilizers...still, even some of the organic farming researchers say that there is not yet that much evidence on pesticide hazards to human health because the pesticides evaporate from the plant surface in direct sunlight and should not accumulate in the plant structures...although it has been proven that they can negatively impact the local fauna, from the soil microfauna to even local avian populations...

But...what is a safe level of chemicals in our food...? [/QU
i've been a farmer all my life , cropping mainly , and i understand that sometimes pesticides need to be used but a lot of them are residual in the ground and in the plant ...
now ok there are checks and balances on SOME of our produce but a damn lot still gets through !
some of my neighbors were completely unscrupulous with the use of chemicals , even ones that had been banned ! when these are used it completely wipes out the soil microfauna , bees etc ..
these days i'm retired and grow my own vegetables ..i DON'T use canola oil at all because i know first hand whats in that !
and as you say aether , whats a safe level ? i really think we're walking a fine line here .

Yeah, is there a safe level if the chemicals build up in our bodies...

I think the worst thing is exactly that destroying of soil microfauna...

Why don't you use canola oil?

[rod58]

[quote=Aether;7835854]

Originally Posted by rod58

Yeah, is there a safe level if the chemicals build up in our bodies...

I think the worst thing is exactly that destroying of soil microfauna...

Why don't you use canola oil?

hey Aether , the reason i don't use canola oil is because of the high levels of chemicals used on it ..
lets start with a bare earth pesticide , for example ,,lemat , the active ingredient is also used to make sarin nerve gas !
then we have atrazine which i believe is now banned it a lot of countrys including the US ..
then after the crop germinates a regime of more pesticides are used .
then just before harvest the crop may have to be desicrated with herbicides to kill it or dry it all out evenly .
i think i may be correct in saying that these chemicals are absorbed into the seed and then of course the oil . i'd rather not risk it !

[Mukind]

Originally Posted by zachrockbadenof

I'm confused on GMO"S... when I was growing up, the watermelons had thousands of seeds... today there are none

I used to grow corn... I would have the water boiling, go outside pick it, and cook it, and many times the corn sucked.... today I go to the store buy corn, put it the fridge and days later when I cook it, sweet as sugar...

GMO"S???....

Seedless...As cannabis users shouldn't be too odd for us. Probably could do it without GMing the produce

As to corn, it may be GMO, but probably not in the way you're thinking. Probably just fresher than you usually buy

Vast majority of GM food you consume was engineered to survive proprietary pesticides. Not to make them taste better or last longer, that's much harder

[Lester Beans]

Transgenic is one thing, GMO is another beast of its own.

It seems like most corn these days has some tweaking done to it. Transgenic is fine, GMO is playing with fire in my opinion.

Get those heirloom seeds while you can folks!

In Iraq I read that heirloom varieties are disappearing rapidly due to the US cramming GMO and Monasshole down their throats. Just awful.

Also read about a company making pollinator drones because bees will not survive the next decade.

Makes me sick. In a way I'm glad I'll be gone before these greedy fucks destroy our food and poison our children.

[wasgedn]

In Iraq I read that heirloom varieties are disappearing rapidly due to the US cramming GMO and Monasshole down their throats. Just awful.

now we talking....

Also read about a company making pollinator drones because bees will not survive the next decade.

we are fckd....


use compost tea and em-a around everywhere in youre gardens....it helps nature...
em-a foilar spray can break down fine dusts and chems....

Yeah, is there a safe level if the chemicals build up in our bodies...

thats why i drink fine zeolith or bentonit powder with water ...zeolith is better to mix...it helps to get stuff out which only get out very hard without proper roughage