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Old 08-30-2016, 08:11 AM #51
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Not my crop, but the first couple of weeks of switch, I would push calcium. Then I would bring K up. I would also be pushing P at this time in general
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From what I have observed and the various comments written by you, speaking of a matter of balance, very interesting coming to summarize that also has an abundance of elements in such an environment will be the result of the products obtained are compost humus worm or any other product of that drift, and I think very important operation in the manufacture of them.

I see that calcium is very important in the management and is closely related to the proportion of the elements in fertilization, as well as the presence of Na is very harmful for the formation of salts, I agree, but in watering I would like to emphasize a question very interesting:
How many people does a design agronomical climatic conditions of the area and as a result of a good hydraulic design eto to irrigate an amount of water that mitigates evaporation, transpiration and extra water for the formation of flowers ......., my question is proportional doses of irrigation water per plant and would put the relationship with the nutrient balance, for a premium quality grass? I ask the question because if we lose nutrients and irrigates much, and if we lose production and little watering.

In my case, I make a very precise amount of water required depending on the climate and salinity of different elements calculation.
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Old 08-30-2016, 03:40 PM #52
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Hello

From what I have observed and the various comments written by you, speaking of a matter of balance, very interesting coming to summarize that also has an abundance of elements in such an environment will be the result of the products obtained are compost humus worm or any other product of that drift, and I think very important operation in the manufacture of them.

I see that calcium is very important in the management and is closely related to the proportion of the elements in fertilization, as well as the presence of Na is very harmful for the formation of salts, I agree, but in watering I would like to emphasize a question very interesting:
How many people does a design agronomical climatic conditions of the area and as a result of a good hydraulic design eto to irrigate an amount of water that mitigates evaporation, transpiration and extra water for the formation of flowers ......., my question is proportional doses of irrigation water per plant and would put the relationship with the nutrient balance, for a premium quality grass? I ask the question because if we lose nutrients and irrigates much, and if we lose production and little watering.

In my case, I make a very precise amount of water required depending on the climate and salinity of different elements calculation.
Getting folks to adhere to ETO calculations is a huge problem, but with this crop and many others.

If the Calcium numbers aren't high enough, osmotic pressure increases pushing salts into tissues that would not nor do not want them.

This means that if you are too salty, folks need to be applying much more water to keep things wet and reduce this osmotic potential.

Ideally folks would be using a real calculation and not over irrigating as most are. And yes, the fertilizer loss is barbaric.
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Old 08-30-2016, 04:43 PM #53
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wow i'm glad to learn this but pretty bummed out too, that shit is everywhere!
They spray conventional wheat with glyphosate as well. Creates an "even" harvest. Probably why so many have a "wheat" allergy, more like a glyphosate reaction/allergy. "Round Up" everyone's mind and dumb it down with glyphosate so they won't mind eating it. J/k

Bought a mango yesterday and you came to mind Slownickel. I've never seen a 3lb. mango, organic at that. Woo woo juice came to mind and I got a good chuckle. I'm imagining it's the breed but couldn't find it, surely I didn't look hard enough until I seen Kent on the sticker. I didn't realize there were so many verities.
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Can't read that very well.

I think it is a Keitt not a Kent, and that label Ava is from California I believe.

Terrible lenticel problems (missing calcium), poor shoulders and can't see the nose from here....
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Getting folks to adhere to ETO calculations is a huge problem, but with this crop and many others.

If the Calcium numbers aren't high enough, osmotic pressure increases pushing salts into tissues that would not nor do not want them.

This means that if you are too salty, folks need to be applying much more water to keep things wet and reduce this osmotic potential.

Ideally folks would be using a real calculation and not over irrigating as most are. And yes, the fertilizer loss is barbaric.
I would love to learn to use the ETO calculator. Can you explain the theory behind it to me.
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Old 08-31-2016, 03:00 PM #57
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You need to find the evaporation data for your area first.....

https://www.wrcc.dri.edu/htmlfiles/westevap.final.html

See if you can find the nearest weather data here....
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Old 09-01-2016, 03:55 AM #58
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Hey guys, I've got a big plant that I put in soil I didn't test... im just noticing a yellowing, or more like a slow fading of all leaves on the top 3rd of the plant... Im going to send off soil tests tomorrow but for now any thoughts? Calcium?
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Old 09-01-2016, 04:25 AM #59
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You can see the one branch in the middle isn't doing it as much. I was only gone for 3 days for it to start happening....
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Old 09-01-2016, 04:26 AM #60
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The next 10feet down to the ground look fine... thanks for any input!

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