[kelly1376]

All the public industry companies have costs like that way way too high. Too many people wanting a cut. Nobody starts a public company to make investors rich. They start a public company to make themselves and their good ol boy network rich.

[oldchuck]

Am I correct in understanding that GW was sold to Bayer? If so then their pockets are pretty deep.

[Betterhaff]

I think Bayer is a distributor of their products in some markets. Basically a distribution/marketing agreement.

[oldchuck]

So Bayer is not on the hook for any of GWs sunk costs? If so then their risk is minimal.

[oldchuck]

Originally Posted by socioecologist

While the "do it yourself at home" instructions will not yield as consistent of a product or an unwavering dose, it will do the trick and get you between 10mg-20mg / kg of body weight--I'd recommend titrating as necessary to reduce symptoms, but I'm not that kind of doctor .

A simple quick wash ethanol extraction followed by air evaporation will give you what you need. The resulting oil will be 40%-55% CBD by weight with the varieties you have. You'll need about 1g of oil per day to hit your mark at those concentrations, but it would fit in two larger pills without trouble. Keep in mind that you will need between 10g-15g of raw flower material per day to achieve this (or 12 pounds per year).

Thank you for this, S. These are about the best and simplest directions I have yet found. Very useful. Gets my thinking into the right order of magnitude.

They still present a big barrier for us home growers without commercial ambitions. 12 pounds a season is a lot for me and I don't know if I can grow or process that much. Most other people are even less capable than I am. That means most people including me, will go into the market for whatever they can get or afford. The products I have seen are under dosed and vastly overpriced and suspect in other ways.

Even if you disregard the risks of a lack of clinical trials that market right now seems grossly extortionate. Perhaps that is a simple supply problem and will eventually correct. But then you have various governments throwing up all sorts of market distortions and mythology as well as ever larger commercial operations soaking people for maximum profits.

[belivitez]

Any news in oregon? send us some photos of field, i would really want to see those beautyfull plants

And one question for you.... what do you use to make feminize seeds? CS, STS or something else?

[PDX Dopesmoker]

Originally Posted by socioecologist

…(or 12 pounds per year).

Thats my kind of diet!
I should warn anyone going into that kind of an edible dosage regime using dank weed and QWET extraction that the odor in the oil might leak through to your flatulence. I used to tell people that I was channeling the spirits of my long lost pet ferrets when it started to smell skunky around me. A few people actually bought it. I think the RSO technique with hot alcohol recovery minimized the loudness if that kind of thing bothers you.
Thanks again for keeping us up to date, socioecologist. This is one of my favorite threads on the board.

[socioecologist]

Bayer was the distributor of Sativex (the 1:1 mix) in the US, but they and GW severed that deal (mutually) late last year.

Here's a link to field footage from about 2.5 weeks ago: oregoncbdseeds.com/oregoncbdjune2017.m4v


Plants are getting big...we're about a week away from the start of flowering for our early photoperiod plants, which means compliance testing the first week or so in August. Weeds all got knocked down in this section yesterday and I swear the plants had put on another 6" of growth in the three days between the picture below and yesterday. This is definitely the best time of the season for me!



Here's a decent sized experimental plant from our 2018 seed lines chugging away. Mom was selected from a very large pool of ACDC x Neville's Haze F2 and crossed to our ERB line. More details on this as they start to do their thing, but we expect it to take 8-9 weeks and should produce massive resin balls--the epitome of hybrid vigor. Testing the progeny from 9 separate moms for this line to find the best to release next year.



A shot of our type IV finishing up.

[oldchuck]

Much envy.

[AgentPothead]

This is such a great thread, thanks for posting it.