[Fiddynut]

Originally Posted by pop_rocks

"Is end of week 4 to early for leaves to turn pale/yellowing?
Is there anything I can or should do at this point?

yes, one of your plants is a heavier feeder than the other and needs a good dose of gen nutrients

maybe cut back on whatever "bloom" nutrients you are using and give her a 50/50 mix of "grow"&"bloom" for a couple of waterings

sorry if im overlooking something but what did you feel them before?

Understanding how to use nutes has been the most difficult part of this for me pop_rocks. There are so many products and it seems like everyone does things differently. It was easy to research how to set up tent, lights, ventilation, temps, humidity, ect. Looking back at my daily grow log I see that I never used more than 1/2 strength of the fox farms grow big during veg and only used it a couple times. I think they needed more to get through the stretch. I have been afrade to over nute and therefore have starved them.

I did give 1/2 strength of ff grow big last night with 2Tbs budswel.

[pop_rocks]

Originally Posted by Fiddynut

Understanding how to use nutes has been the most difficult partof this for me pop_rocks. There are so many products and it seems like everyone does things differently. It was easy to research how to set up tent, lights, ventilation, temps, humidity, ect. Looking back at my daily grow log I see that I never used more than 1/2 strength of the fox farms grow big during veg and only used it a couple times. I think they needed more to get through the stretch. I have been afrade to over nute and therefore have starved them.

I did give 1/2 strength of ff grow big last night with 2Tbs budswel.

no doubt brother
there are more nutrients and optimisers out there than you can keep track of

i like that you are using them at half strength and keeping a grow log
/make a note, strain "B" likes more fertilizer


again, sorry if im missing something obv but what is your base growing medium

lets start there

[1990rhdcrxsi]

grow medium appears to be soil

[Fiddynut]

Originally Posted by pop_rocks

no doubt brother
there are more nutrients and optimisers out there than you can keep track of

i like that you are using them at half strength and keeping a grow log
/make a note, strain "B" likes more fertilizer


again, sorry if im missing something obv but what is your base growing medium

lets start there

Growing in fox farms happy frog soil pop_rocks. I have the 3 basic fox farms nute combo grow big, tiger bloom and big bloom but have been under using them. I also have earth juice grow which is an organic veg fert and budswel for flower. I have read that using these organic products is an easy way to feed without having to worry about burning your plants.

My goal for now is to learn how to grow quality buds. I am not worrying about getting a great yield right now just high grade to puff and maybe make some wax. I have heard that bud quality is mostly genetic so I started with good seed from a friend who has ca med card and can get them from Cali connection. These 3 all from same pack of seeds that are feminized Blackwater.

Checked in on the girls this morning and things are looking good. Plenty more crystals and buds getting bigger and fatter by the day. Still not sure what to expect but if I can keep going for a few more weeks without doing something stupid I should have this first one under my belt.

Thanks for taking interest in my grow pop_rocks.

[pop_rocks]

im just trying to share my experience and help out,brother
happy frog is quality dirt and should sustain a plant
ima big fan of fox farm and i have used their products in the past

so the lower leaves are greening up and the new growth looks good?

"My goal for now is to learn how to grow quality buds. I am not worrying about getting a great yield right now..."

im glad to see you have realistic goal in mind
you are on teh right course
keep your feedings light and jsut watch and learn for now,im sure you will acomplish your goal of some good puff

ive been growing for quite a while and i feel like im still learning

[pop_rocks]

Originally Posted by 1990rhdcrxsi

grow medium appears to be soil

thanks man,

so much goign on here i soemtimes get things jumbled and forget whos grow is whos

[Fiddynut]

Originally Posted by pop_rocks

im just trying to share my experience and help out,brother
happy frog is quality dirt and should sustain a plant
ima big fan of fox farm and i have used their products in the past

so the lower leaves are greening up and the new growth looks good?

"My goal for now is to learn how to grow quality buds. I am not worrying about getting a great yield right now..."

im glad to see you have realistic goal in mind
you are on teh right course
keep your feedings light and jsut watch and learn for now,im sure you will acomplish your goal of some good puff

ive been growing for quite a while and i feel like im still learning

Glad there are people like you to share and help out pop_rocks. Nice to know that I should be able to have success with the soil and nutes. I can't really say that the lower leaves are greening up but they are not getting worse and it doesn't seem to be spreading to other leaves. New growth looking great with new and fatter buds every day.
I am thinking about flushing them next time they need water. Having not used a lot of nutes it's unlikely that there is much salt build up but maybe there is something in soil causing lock out or something.

[Fiddynut]

Pulled the lady's out to have a look today and things seem to be going well. They were thirsty and I also wanted to give some more nutes. Been giving them 1/2 gal h2o per watering and added 8 ml grow big + 1 tablespoon molasses to the 1.5 gallon and ph'd to 6.6. Gave 1/2 gal each and had about 1/2 cup runoff. They must be using more water because I use to get at least a full cup runoff.
Here is a couple pics I took of them.

[pop_rocks]

Originally Posted by Fiddynut

I am thinking about flushing them next time they need water. Having not used a lot of nutes it's unlikely that there is much salt build up but maybe there is something in soil causing lock out or something.

i would hold off on this
i checked out your new pics, lookin' good man!
but im not seeing anything that would suggest that you need a flush
you would typically only flush mid cycle because of overfeeding
your plants look fine

lock out is possible and you could always optimize your grow by checking the ph of your soil and water
but for real, as long as the plant are happy lets keep things as simple as we can

[Fiddynut]

Originally Posted by pop_rocks

i would hold off on this
i checked out your new pics, lookin' good man!
but im not seeing anything that would suggest that you need a flush
you would typically only flush mid cycle because of overfeeding
your plants look fine

lock out is possible and you could always optimize your grow by checking the ph of your soil and water
but for real, as long as the plant are happy lets keep things as simple as we can

Thanks pop_rocks. I really don't think there is a soil issue either. I checked ph in and out a couple waterings ago and had 6.5 going in and 6.5 was the runoff. I think I will keep giving some veg nutes every watering. I know you are suppose to feed every other but they seem to be begging for some N. I have been using about a teaspoon of grow big per gallon which is pretty light. I have been watering every 3 days. Some feeding charts have you using 2-3 teaspoons grow big + some big bloom + tiger bloom per gal but these girls are not use to much so I think I'll keep feeding slight. Maybe one teaspoon each of grow big and tiger bloom per gal every other and just a teaspoon grow big on the other watering. Since this strain is suppose to flower in 55/60 days I think only a couple more weeks of nutes anyway and then a flush and just h2o for last couple weeks.

I got a 10X loupe today as well so I will be able to check trichomes a little more closely. I can hardly wait for the light to come on so I can take a close look at those crystals.
I will take more pics when they come out for watering tomorrow evening.