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Old 07-14-2016, 08:56 PM #21
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i've read stories of people thinking it was a myth and then a friend of them grew the same plant but flushed it and it tasted much cleaner.
I don't really want to take the risk to have bad tasting buds just to test the myth, and anyway at the end of maturation it seems that the buds are fully developed and dense so why would they need more nutes?
I've grown a few plants never tried flushing, buds are exceptional.

As far as the nutrition i think the plants are carrying on metabolic processes until the chop so maybe using less nutes but still drawing up water that contains minerals, same as in nature. I grow the same as a bunch of the high brix style growers. Many of us foliar right up until week of harvest. Never had mold have had consistently superb bud.

Ill repost once I get my only "flushed" plant chopped and dried. I am very curious if a difference is detectable. At chop date it will have had only water for over 2 weeks and no foliars for over 3 weeks. I'm extremely doubtful because my soil is loaded with worms and active biologically so there is a constant cycling that can not be avoided (without wasting the soil)
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Old 07-14-2016, 09:02 PM #22
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i don't understand all you say cause english is not my native language and it's a little technical for me but,

for you, what makes buds burn to dark and hard ashes?
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Old 07-14-2016, 09:08 PM #23
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I find that the super resiny buds need to be well ground to burn properly. The hard to burn nuggets I think are because there is a load of resin that is dense and not easy to fully incinerate.

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Old 07-14-2016, 09:37 PM #24
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i disagree, i have good grinders and a lot of experience when it comes to rolling/smoking, i've seen fully resinous buds burn perfectly white, i don't think that's the explanation if it's not flush
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i disagree, i have good grinders and a lot of experience when it comes to rolling/smoking, i've seen fully resinous buds burn perfectly white, i don't think that's the explanation if it's not flush
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Over fed and under flushed bud burns black, it's the burnt residue of unused nutrients
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Old 07-14-2016, 10:53 PM #26
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Over fed and under flushed bud burns black, it's the burnt residue of unused nutrients
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Stinks like stoner bullshit. Cite one legit study for any crop where flushing improves outcomes. Explain why natural bud from the earth grown under the sun aint heard of flushing.

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Old 07-14-2016, 11:49 PM #27
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i disagree, i have good grinders and a lot of experience when it comes to rolling/smoking, i've seen fully resinous buds burn perfectly white, i don't think that's the explanation if it's not flush
If you grow in soil there isnt anything about flushing that makes sense from a plant nutrition perspective. If there is something in the literature that supports flushing please post it. In hydro set ups it may be sensible, i wouldn't know.

Why isnt there a simple test example showing the anslysis of buds flushed and unflushed? Stoners hate real science when it disconfirms their "truth". I believe that if you insist flushed bud is different you will find that it is different, but legitimate measurements wont detect any differences.

Well i got some flushed bud to test and ill try to keep an open mind. Im def open to being persuaded. I thought the 24/48 hr dark period was silly but i tested it and i think it helps. I have made it a practice.
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Old 07-15-2016, 12:12 AM #28
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let's keep it to a nice debate please

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If you grow in soil there isnt anything about flushing that makes sense from a plant nutrition perspective.
Why? I don't know much about plants except from weed forums

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If there is something in the literature that supports flushing please post it. In hydro set ups it may be sensible, i wouldn't know.
If you consider forums or high times as literature then there is plenty, if you only trust approved scientific studies, you won't find any cause it's illegal...


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Why isnt there a simple test example showing the anslysis of buds flushed and unflushed? Stoners hate real science when it disconfirms their "truth". I believe that if you insist flushed bud is different you will find that it is different, but legitimate measurements wont detect any differences.
For me the truth is in the smoke, but you think black, hard ash and unproper taste comes from something else than nutes in the bud, and i believe it does, not from not grinding the bud well or too resinous but let's keep the debate open

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Well i got some flushed bud to test and ill try to keep an open mind. Im def open to being persuaded. I thought the 24/48 hr dark period was silly but i tested it and i think it helps. I have made it a practice.
maybe you'll notice a difference but if your buds are perfect the way you grow them then don't change, maybe if you feed no more than what's needed and your plant consume everything then you can feed till the end but for me it seems that the longer the flush the better it taste (i never harvest anything before 10 to 12 weeks so enough time to develop and get dense before flush)
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Stinks like stoner bullshit.

Cite one legit study for any crop where flushing improves outcomes.

Explain why natural bud from the earth grown under the sun aint heard of flushing.
Well that's a well structured argument against something you admit you personally have no knowledge about

Few people write about their fuck ups except in the "infirmary" section try looking there for black ash

Earth grown weed depletes the nutrients from the soil and causes the plant to use the nutritional needs stored in the leaves, hence they discolour, die and drop off, nobody feeds them at this stage, just water for weeks

Next years crop will need the soil to have all the nutrients replaced, ask any outdoor grower what happens when you try a new crop on old soil

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Perhaps when you grow up a bit, you might learn to keep your mouth shut until you can bring a reasoned argument to the table
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Old 07-16-2016, 03:20 PM #30
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Hi Bush Dr,

supermoto? hell yeah, ktm all the way for me

so what do you think about flushing in the shower with tap in the next week?
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