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Old 06-22-2016, 11:02 PM
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Does vaping decarboxylate as fully as smoking?

Is THCA all converted?

Would it be better to vape are higher temps to achieve this?

Buying vape pen for herb for 100 bucks and wondering if it's really converted!

Maybe this is the reason for no body buzz.
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Old 06-23-2016, 12:19 AM
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Cool I have a Volcano, Vapor Brothers, Magic Flight Box

I run my Volcano at 365f or 185c

The others do not have a temp read out.
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Old 06-23-2016, 12:25 AM
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I tried the magic flight. It's ok. It can burn lol. THen after that everything's tainted. Then I lent to a friend and now he can't find it. Oh well.
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Old 06-23-2016, 02:40 AM
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On a graph the highest temperatures deliver the most THC, delivery drops steeply from there. The Volcano even at 200C vaporizes 5% THCA unchanged. It still delivers more THC than smoking. It delivers much more loaded THC than the same amount of THCA at all temperatures, especially lower. You could oven bake first, get more THC for whatever reason - maybe THC is more easily volatilized than THCA.
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Old 06-24-2016, 07:42 PM
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I figured I could decarboxylze it first. Not sure how it would effect the final flavor and the high with the entourage effect going on.

Which vape you use Joe?

Vapes are king. Except this one that I had that emitted plastic or some shit.
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You could oven bake first, get more THC for whatever reason - .
And kill your terps, why even bother inhaling?!

Stores and Bickels did some tests- at lower temps you get way more terps than cannabs, in fact most cannabs are left behind. In order to get both, as Joe stated, you need to crank your temps.

Mind you, a low temp setting is full of flavor and gets you ripped... so there is definitely more to the potency story and 'feeling high' than just THC(a) alone...
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In another thread it has been touched upon what temperatures to use, but also strain matters and I am sure how many entourage terpenes are present and what kind even, due to the varying weights and boiling points of the cannabinoids and/or terpenes.

Here is that thread: I just created this thread to figure a specific link between some other thing occupying cannabinoid receptor sites first and effecting the high, that's why I want to know if that THC vs THC(a) is a part of that also. Which one volatizes first? And does the location on the trichome matter?
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Here, in Arno Hazekamp's thesis: Cannabis; extracting the medicine

https://openaccess.leidenuniv.nl/bit...297/Thesis.pdf

Chapter 10
Evaluation of a vaporizing device (Volcano®) for the pulmonary
administration of tetrahydrocannabinol
P. 133

He's since done a bunch of work on terps, pretty sure he showed that almost all of the initial and low temp hits are a much larger dse of terps than cannabs.

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Old 06-24-2016, 11:06 PM
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Been wondering for a while now if the intermediate of THCA to THC, it's keto-enol form iirc, has to do with any of the effects we feel with cannabis. Many of our biomolecules are used in there intermediate forms.
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Old 06-24-2016, 11:20 PM
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I see the have cannabis tea and also for increasing solubility of THC. They shoulda combined the two!

I love tea. Two that relax: Celestial seasonings blueberry and of course pretty much any chamomile tea. And maybe Cannabis tea.

And Chimera bro you're biased toward the terpenes and flavor. lol

Although you can just...and this is from that PDF you turned me onto....hold your vapor hit in as; "During the clinical administration, it was found that about 35% of total THC was exhaled
directly after inhalation and was therefore not absorbed by the lungs."

Ha isn't that great it's not those three seconds people say it is with vapor. If you release any visible vapor that's wasted THC
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