[bombadil.360]

In Israel solar panels are tax free and any excess produced goes into the main and you get paid twice per kw than what you pay the electric company. Also 95% of the hot water in all households is heated with a special solar heating panel and tank.

[resinryder]

Here in the US, conserving energy sounds really good. Start conserving and taking that dollar out the power companies pocket and it's just another concept they'll try hard to do away with. NV Energy destroyed the solar panel installation industry here because of that very reason.

[Snook]

Originally Posted by GoatCheese

Yea, and when people protest on the streets, Spanish police use agent-provocateurs among the demonstrators. Google: spain police agent provocateurs
Police in UK, US, Canada, Italy and Greece have been caught using the same tactics and it has been reported in the MSM

I don't know what the MSM is but police all over the world are of the establishment. They will do whatever that establishment wants, by enforcing the establishments laws, however necessary. Without them ther'd be chaos but some times with them there's chaos. Sometime enforcing laws that they like and not enforcing law they don't like. I've known many LEOs personally thru my life, one is the still Chief of Police... they all get high, one was the Hoover of all time.. he was the one that could do bags of coke thru his shift while being the king of DUI/DWI.... its a tough job they do, every asshole they encounter makes it harder for them to act rationally sometimes.. war is hell. when theyre shooting at you, you can and will do strange things..

[JohnKimble]

Originally Posted by resinryder

Here in the US, conserving energy sounds really good. Start conserving and taking that dollar out the power companies pocket and it's just another concept they'll try hard to do away with. NV Energy destroyed the solar panel installation industry here because of that very reason.

This kinda thing has been on-going before any of us were born. Its all about control and the dollar. Back during the invention of the car subburbs had a street cars going into the city, the motor companies bought em out and destroyed them. Replaced them with roads.

[GoatCheese]

Originally Posted by Snook

its a tough job they do, every asshole they encounter makes it harder for them to act rationally sometimes.. war is hell. when theyre shooting at you, you can and will do strange things..

MSM = Main Stream Media


Cops aren't the same in every country ..in the US, alot of you're police seems to be closer to banana-rebulics than Northern Europe. Lot of Rambos and super-cops out there living in a "tv show"-reality.
Organized crime has been infiltrating US police and security agencies for decades. Lucky Luciano and these guys were working with people within US Gov, while bringing heroin into the country at the same time. Whitey Bulger had people in the FBI and so on..
.. and i doubt that much has changed since then.


But there are still good cops in the US as well, and i doubt these guys do cocaine all that much.


Peace.

[resinryder]

Most US police identify/refer to themselves as a paramilitary unit now. Heard the LVMPD Chief say that about 10 years ago.

[Snook]

Originally Posted by corky1968

Yeah, they are probably 99.99% of the reason why demonstrations get violent at times.

One side shows up in riot gear and the agent-provocateurs start shit up to get it all closed down on the other side.

Here's what happened at the G20 in Toronto. Watch this video and learn their tactics.

EXPOSED! G20 Toronto Police Agent Provocateurs

As for generating energy. The Governments make it sound like they are all up for it.
But when a private person decided to make their own hydro all kinds of stupid rules
apply and/or they try to tax the shit out of you. Like Governments own the sun or
the wind that gave you the energy?

IMO, there should be a law for protesters that are from other locations out side the state it occurs in, caught looting, destroying property or inciting a riot, should be prosecuted more $everely.. its a form of terrorism. OTOH, some laws protect them..

[Cannabis]

That's the point. They can walk onto your property and check for rain barrels attached to your gutters. They can do whatever they want because they write laws then harass people until everyone finally agrees to all just pay it up front, and if they want to actually trap some of it, go ahead.

Originally Posted by Green Squall

My question is how would they even know if someone is collecting rain water in the first place? It's not like they can just walk onto your property and check for rain barrels attached to your gutters.

How it's really done is by making you show evidence of compliance with regulations and when they catch you, they fine you from the date of having discovered it, a certain amount per day.

They will make you show documentation of when you bought it or they go back to the last time someone definitively checked/signed there were none of the entrapment basins on the property.

Once a society decides to terrorize a minority it's over.

[Cannabis]

This society's government has made it's dollar terrorizing the citizenry since they illegalized pot, to drive everyone brown out of the economy during the Great Depression, and turn them into income stream, in the years leading up to the second World War; they've been stealing it blind since they built the Fed so crashes can be timed and the entire nation work in debt to a giant bank.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt actually made pot illegal, ya know what his personal reasons were? So he and Mr Du Pont and others could bypass Henry Ford's well publicized promise, to build a nation of cars, constructed from hemp products. (They'd learned how to infuse wood with early hydrocarbon plastics etc, other fibers too, an create these super strong laminate type & similar products, out of natural fibers and wood, just like you see lots of laminate wood built in form of plywood and beams; Lam beams, and plywood, are both similar families of the type concepts Ford was saying clearly could be used with hemp.

But Roosevelt was embarrassed about the 'backward state of our farming communities' and what he meant there was not any real regulation of the people. Because they were so, self sufficient with widely available commodity products, food, and new modern plastics creeping in around the edges, making what everybody had, better.

So what he did was he agreed to just wipe out the 'filler' type product hemp that was so cheap, so easily worked, and so ubiquitous in it's production by locals, that made their farming base overall, quite strong, economically. You could throw that hemp in there, anywhere you had land, and if it would grow, it would fight out the weeds, and it would provide whatever you pretty much needed, some fodder to help that along feeding animals, some product for thread, cloth, twine, rope, you name it, you could find somebody, somewhere, to take some string hemp off your hands.

So they just made hemp illegal. He hired a man to go find reasons to make it illegal and there weren't any, and he told that guy if he didn't find any then he wasn't gonna have a job, working for the president of the united states; so he went back; and tried repeatedly to get people to help him manufacture fake hemp smoking cases.

Law enforcement pretty well told him to take a hike, he was f***g creepy and everyone knew, Roosevelt had an angle or there wouldn't be such an obviously corrupt push, to make this stuff illegal.

So he wrangled and got a little traction from racists here and there who'd recently had sorta classical racial trouble with black folks not agreeing, to be treated like animals, and mexicans & south americans, too.

But the people willing to testify were pretty obviously unreliable. So the guy went to congress himself, and swore thuh devul weed, was makin them people hang around with mexicans & coloreds. He had a couple of guys back out in the audience raise up and say 'Yep' and Anslinger kept going around town making the circuit, telling everybody that this was what the PREZ KNEW the people WANTED.

Next thing: the American Hemp industry was shut down and dismantled over a very short period at first but WWII started and they had to relent and restore some economic power to the country because the world needed these valuable, low cost, fibers. They added tremendous value in as many ways as cotton does today. Only it was tougher. And didn't have those boll weavil problems.

Well listen you know what the ... what the chemical field, ''hydrocarbons'' or what you see people call ''the modern polymers'' - ya know what they are right?
Oil.
Big
AwuhL.
That's right pot was made illegal by Franklin Roosevelt so Du Pont, could spread his tentacles into the economy, with his Awuhl based products.

Thay wawntid thim sum big awuhl fur this country,
cause this country, didn't know what it needed.

Nylon and the other hydrocarbon polymers are almost pure,

oil.

Government employee unions have to be constantly hazed, mocked, shamed, ostrasized and outright defied.

There's nothing they won't do.

Where do you think all this ''war on drugs'' has been financed, from the pockets of?

The people being busted and given sentences for non crimes. All these brown people and black people who have had to be kept out of the economy

that FDR destroyed

when he made pot illegal.

Poor people could no longer sleep with a relative over the winter, grow some hemp on a little yard to the side there, or out in some field nobody worked, and make himself enough to get a sleeping bag, some blankets, something that would just grow usable commodity product right out of the ground.

The Federal Government provided the perfect mechanism so locals could just started hunting American blacks like game. Police learned that it was a good way to exploit their own tendencies to draw men who were violent toward brown or black people; anyone who didn't worship white authority.

That law was to cripple the American farming infrastructure because the people didn't really need, Federal intervention for a lot of things, in most of the country.

The government minded types who wish to simply rule the world, have been practicing on the American public since the Fed was established; and they've been practicing destroying entire races of people and turning them into income stream for local police (whites) who need jobs since pot was made illegal.

By a Democrat.

The one who also gave the nation ''Pearl Harbor.''

And Social Security, the National Disability plan that says if you can take a course in school, you can't be disabled. You also, if you get sick, have to have any insurance you have, automatically pay not just second - but not pay anything, the HALF PRICE PAYING MEDICARE won't PAY.

gOOD old FRANKLIN. Gee Franklin thanks from America's blacks, hispanics, and handicapped people.

Oh and what are modern police known for doing? Shooting those first two and who else? Disabled and old people.

The kinder gentler, Democrat minded police state - where police don't carry truncheons because it incites fights, and police are told hide from criminal rampage until it calms down enough to go in, while they stand outside wearing black swat suits, impotent dilettantes-

who have taken the world's most legendarily dangerous job: policing,

down from one of the top two, or three most dangerous professions in all the nation, -as you'd expect,

to the twentieth most dangerous profession.

Ask yourself a question and don't be mad and all bowed up - or you'll tell yourself you must have lied to yourself; and didn't really get the point because you had been baited.

How, do the people,
responsible for going out and physically confronting,
the entire dirty bath of a civilization's most ruthless, most angry, most dug-in, malice filled, most desperate, unpredictable, and dangerous people - it's TRUE criminopaths -

manage to only be the TWENTIETH MOST DANGEROUS PROFESSION, in the f***g country?

And yet in America,

black people, what's their fear? Simply being m u r d e r e d for s p o r t.

hispanics, what's their fear? Simply being murdered for sport.

Disabled people, what's their fear? Simply being murdered, for sport.

Now let me ask you something. What is the main thing these police are groomed, so they'll be?

Good socialists.
Not free styling repugnican types who worship pure freedom in authority.
Nope.
They're SELECTED
because PSYCHOLOGICALLY
they're GOOD SOCIALISTS.

It's the Democrat way to soften the police
so they don't murder so many of the people they made pot illegal against,
so the police could murder them.

Start young taking every single extra and NOT extra: can't pay your fines? Need rent? Need food? Wife and kids need goods? F**k you. You're a criminal. You better go FIND me some christmas present money for my kids, (fines) because my kids' mommy/daddy are government employees. And you?
You're the criminal we caught with the devil weed and we're gonna crucify you as a lesson to all scofflaws. Breakers of the law, never prosper.
We see to it.


And what's the way to keep it all popular, keep that 'need for income stream' generated? Massive, massive diploma degree mills for otherwise unemployable white people who need something to do.

So they become ''counselors''.

Simply making people turned into ''income stream'' by the police, give ALL their money, to these ''counselors'' in return for copy paper with a bunch of made up shit/pop psychology written on it; then, they all have to go over like it's a big, deep, dark secret, what they're doing there.

It is, to the young brown and black people turned into income stream.

And the thing is, once this kind of nation destruction gets a certain amount of momentum it just becomes unstoppable except by the consciences of the people inside, doing the gigantic scam, themselves.

Now you might think this is because these people love gays, and love blacks, and love women, and love puppy dogs; no, actually they're as evil as f***g snakes.

Nah; it's that they are all of them, legendary, for propping themselves up among the people, as somehow more 'social' and 'smart', and then destroying everyone in sight who is brown, black, or a woman,
who objects to their getting rich their way.

Because they're power crazy government employees. Murdering, imprisoning, and torturing people to death, to keep terror everywhere ''so the peoples' problems, stay manageable.''

And right now these peoples' disguise is that they love gays and brown people and black people.

These people - this kind of people - are on every hand, among the Europeans. Among non Europeans, too, but the prodigious evils able to be maintained for centuries, are nowadays, most obviously in the Europeans.

They want to rule, they want to rule it all, they see they can probably make it happen come hell or high water, and they just go see how many lost, honest, souls, looking for some direction, will come their way. It's the same MIND SET as the people who fought to keep slavery in place.

When you think about it, it's what they've done. The same, bizarre control freak types, who used to practice Jim Crowe in the South and East and Midwest, to a lesser extent in the west - they were busy riding down Natives and Mexicans/South Americans, riding THEM out of the economy the Democrats destroyed - the economy of the poor -
when they made it illegal for them to grow hemp to make themselves blankets and clothes for themselves, and their children.

''Go get a job. Go to school.''

Why?

''Because you're no good to these people, you've got to integrate or they're going to destroy you.''

What?

"You have to go among them and work for them and take what they pay you and show them you are a good person.''

While telling the farmers, that bringing in more and more illegal aliens instead of letting the people have a culture where they teach their own kids to run a working farm, that had it's one of it's main, staple commodity crops removed - hemp - is good. It's a good thing to cripple the farmers, the blacks, the mexicans, so they could be ''brought 'forward' to 'be on par with the more technologically advanced countries of Europe and the World'...

while telling these same farmers it's unethical to let the local poor people to grow some hemp to make themselves all new clothing each year.


Because hemp is from the devil.
No Mr Roosevelt you were demonstrably the devil. Militarily incompetent, creating the national and worldwide term, ''got pearl harbor'd'' meaning ambushed and knocked the blank out, cold, then stomped, then walked off from.

You topped that with making pot illegal unleashing the war we all see taped and captured on video on youtube and all over the world.

You gave us the nation with the developed world's most people imprisoned

by the very police your ''progress'' oriented people teach to hide from rampaging murderers while completely decked out in full swat gear, listening to child after child, squealing and dying in agony and horror, in front of all the other children.

Then the 'progressives' want to ''rush expert grief handlers to the scene, to interview and counsel everyone about how they should act.''

More F A K E gurus from the oft neglected arm of this: the diploma mills which hand out diplomas to anyone whose families can scam the money.

Maybe by working for the government.

That's the history of America in the 20th century in the hands of the country's 'progressives'.

And see it doesn't matter what they're teaching today, if you had these same people in the days of Mr Hilter and those zany Axis guys,

they'd be making the same decisions, with the same, bug-eyed, manic grins, and the same 'political fist' sign at speeches where they ball up that fist but only do real short pumps with the thumb sticking out because folded it looks too overtly combative - go look at pictures of Hilter and company giving speeches, then look at the pictures of various people in the modern ''progress'' movement.

Hey - ever hear of the guy named Cook, the climate kook, who swore the climate was changing and everybody has to start giving all their money to the government to stop climate from changing? LoL by fining people for making fire because the sky will get hot?

He and his whole website's management got hacked and they had pasted THEIR OWN PORTRAITS onto the BODIES of WWII NAZI LEADERSHIP and PILLAGING TROOPS - murdering, burning, and hacking Russia to it's knees.

This is the history of Americans, trusting their government to make things work out half assed okay in the 20th century.

They gave the blacks and hispanics and young people of the world, ''POT IS ILLEGAL NOW. USE SOME OIL PRODUCTS INSTEAD. IF YOU AREN'T PAYING MONEY INTO THE SYSTEM FOR WHAT YOU'RE GETTING, YOU'RE ROBBING THE SYSTEM; WHETHER OR NOT WHAT YOU DO or OWN IS HARMFUL and WHETHER OR NOT, WE'RE RIGHT. If YOU don't GO ALONG with the CHEMISTRY SCAM we'll SHOOT YOU and SHOW VIDEO of it to YOUR FAMILY
and the WHOLE WORLD; and not ONE human being is gonna do ONE thing ABOUT it.

WE'LL BET YOUR LIFE ON IT by the MILLIONS. ALONG the WAY we're going to FLEECE YOU, and ALL your FAMILY, and YOU'RE gonna MAKE us RICH.''

[Gry]

Do I hear the revisionist history bell ringing ?