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Old 05-19-2016, 06:11 PM #31
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are you no till?
I'm trying to be as much as possible - my two main beds had their amendments/manure raked (rather than dug) in this year, so looking forward to seeing how they do.

Other than that I have a few holes which had amendments/manure dug in, but I realize now I could have top dressed and then made a void in the middle where I could have filled in with a bit of lightly amended soil/compost and then sown into that.

Also going to have a few containers which I'll be mixing soil for very soon.
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Looks good man.

I did a no till in coco but kinda regretting it now. The non tilled part is much more compacted than the tilled, meaning that's just less open space for roots to fill in etc. The fabric pot can only hold so much volume of stuff before it splits open or doesn't allow more roots to fill in because of too dense a medium, I fear. Even if roots penetrate by further compacting medium, I am worried it makes the medium less airy. Kinda like a nail going through wood.

Guess I'll find out. I took a thick pronged pitchfork and dug a foot in and twisted to break up at least the top layer of the outside edge of the pots. Not near the center so I don't damage roots.
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Old 05-19-2016, 07:24 PM #33
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Looks good man.

I did a no till in coco but kinda regretting it now. The non tilled part is much more compacted than the tilled, meaning that's just less open space for roots to fill in etc. The fabric pot can only hold so much volume of stuff before it splits open or doesn't allow more roots to fill in because of too dense a medium, I fear. Even if roots penetrate by further compacting medium, I am worried it makes the medium less airy. Kinda like a nail going through wood.

Guess I'll find out. I took a thick pronged pitchfork and dug a foot in and twisted to break up at least the top layer of the outside edge of the pots. Not near the center so I don't damage roots.
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I'm trying to be as much as possible - my two main beds had their amendments/manure raked (rather than dug) in this year, so looking forward to seeing how they do.

Other than that I have a few holes which had amendments/manure dug in, but I realize now I could have top dressed and then made a void in the middle where I could have filled in with a bit of lightly amended soil/compost and then sown into that.

Also going to have a few containers which I'll be mixing soil for very soon.
I belive coco breaks down allot faster then peat Living mulches are pretty critical to no tills also as the roots break up the first foot of soil which is the most critical for your plants along with many ither benefits. . Notice the root ball doesn't really get further then 12 inches. I like liVing mulches. I will do some white clover in a couple weeks along with alfalfa hay. I like to wait for the roots to want to dig deep before I cool them off with a mulch and invite them to the top layer. Ill then be chopping the clover and top dressing as stretch comes. Give them a healthy dose of N and amended soil for there stretch and flowering period. I really like the way clover keeps the top soil very spongy and aerated.

It's funny though. I floated thru some threads last year and seen guys tilling there soil. Now moving there soil and claiming no till. The whole point of no till is to not disturb the soil in anyway so your mycelium growth goes undisturbed. Not to disturb your whole soil food web. I don't know all the major reason bit I do know to to touch it lol. I would be doing no till but my pad isn't permanent. I know the concepts just haven't gotten into the science too much because I haven't been able to apply it yet. One day I'll have my raised beds and setting it forward.

Well I've got another 2 holes to dig. It's beautiful day out here in the 916!
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Old 05-19-2016, 08:58 PM #34
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I have much to learn about organics. I tried it my first season outdoors from an indoor background, came up short of expectations, and decided to ditch the learning curve and do hydro outdoors. Because every season, I swear will be my last.
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Old 05-19-2016, 09:05 PM #35
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I have much to learn about organics. I tried it my first season outdoors from an indoor background, came up short of expectations, and decided to ditch the learning curve and do hydro outdoors. Because every season, I swear will be my last.
I've never done any type of bottle feeding. Started with organics so I don't know what expectations I'm having lol. Seems like if your dialed in with bottles you know what and when the plant needs what incase of deficiency. Organics for me is hard to treat if a problem does occure. Seems like theres allot of knowledgeable folks on this forum to maybe help a growmie out incase a problem does rise. I hope everything goes smooth. Last year was very stressful since it was my first full time real grow.I do like the extremely low maintenance of organics. Me having a full time job is what really put me on to organics before I even attempted a grown
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Old 05-19-2016, 09:07 PM #36
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building a basic drip irrigation literally changed the game for me....so much less work
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Yea I'm going to look into them. Having more time spent managing the plant sounds allot more fun.

What are the guys using for IPM around here? I cycle azamax, take down and weekly green clean with my Hudson. I'd like to get rid of azamax but it does work very well. I don't really like neem. Don't like the residue or the smell.
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Old 05-19-2016, 09:29 PM #38
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So is anyone outdoor yet full term without supplemental lighting? I noticed some plants are showing sex hard. Didn't know if it's a myth about moon cycles and what not about plants showing sex. My plants have been on 16/8 for weeks before planting. So I'm just curious how often they will show sex? And what to really watch out for incase I'm looking at preflowering? Thanks
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Old 05-19-2016, 10:34 PM #39
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Hey there, following along. I'm outside with my seeds and no supplemental lighting. They're just now showing sex at ~5 weeks old so I'm crossing my fingers they don't flip in the next two weeks. Just look for lots of pistils clumped in the new growth.

Last year, I released predator mites (californicus, I believe? to prevent russets), as well as lacewing eggs. I had a scare in the middle of the season and sprayed with sulfur (and burned them :x, and subsequently freaked out the next 3 months about whether or not the buds would smell like fireworks), but that was it. No problems.

I'm looking forward to my living white clover mulch this year! I love the no-till idea. It speaks to the lazy in me.
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Old 05-19-2016, 10:56 PM #40
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Hey there, following along. I'm outside with my seeds and no supplemental lighting. They're just now showing sex at ~5 weeks old so I'm crossing my fingers they don't flip in the next two weeks. Just look for lots of pistils clumped in the new growth.

Last year, I released predator mites (californicus, I believe? to prevent russets), as well as lacewing eggs. I had a scare in the middle of the season and sprayed with sulfur (and burned them :x, and subsequently freaked out the next 3 months about whether or not the buds would smell like fireworks), but that was it. No problems.

I'm looking forward to my living white clover mulch this year! I love the no-till idea. It speaks to the lazy in me.
Yea I'll keep my out. Thanks. Seems like my clones might be. I'm going to transplant then into bigger pots and ride it out. My plants thay are from seed are just showing sex again. I believe I'm over 14 hours daylight so I hope there fine.
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