[Tonygreen]

Here's hoping for all ladies s2! Bx2 is almost down to the last page on seedbay. I'll have some bx3 sometime this summer.

[Tonygreen]

Main pheno in GB...
The structure is getting very reliable from seed...



Couple moms, 70-75% phenos are glue leaning in the GB BX2.
These are untopped but if you top em early they fricking explode in laterals like their momma.

Copy/pasta from GB thread...

While the gettin is good here is my two bx2 moms. Little heat stress and minor reveg stress on the tops. You can see she went from 1000w hps back to t-5 and cfl and the node structure is improved and outstanding. You can also look closely and see the lowers trying to come up good, if I topped them they would be 3x longer and these suckers would be bushes. These are great structure examples of roughly 75% of the GB BX2 phenos. They grow similar and the fun is in the variable terp profiles.

By the time this project is done you will be able to pop a pack of seeds or two and mono crop and they will look similar to a clone run, but the nose will have variations. I know alot of peeps like shitloads of phenos, you will find your cut by the nose, everything else you can count on to be solid as fuck. Eventually here my sssdh x sour b line will come out as F3's, those will be a pheno treasure hunt ha!

I apreciate otis runnin that mono basically from seed. Proves my point of knowing what yer gonna get from a pack, and the work isnt done yet...

IF you cant get the GG4 cut you will know what to expect from a pack of GB. Once my work is done I'll start selling her as hard as everyone else pushes their f1's. Until then the work can speak for itself ha. Once this is done you can expect supreme F1's left and right. She is already outcrossing like a motherfucker. Wish you guys could smell these blues ha!

Frost supreme, excellent flower structure, solid hard hitting potency with added medicinal benefits of some more pain relief on the back end with a little mellower deeper bite to balance the gg4 hard head change.

Little extra added thickness to her too, not as much as the filials but still improved. Anyway heres my babies.


Really appreciate the support guys, means a lot to validate the work and also means a lot to my family and kids. The first two pages flew off the shelf, one page left....

I got new buns in the oven for a drop this summer sometime, god willing, knock on wood, nam myoho renge kyo etc etc.

[Clarence]

Watch this space. In the next day or two we will have a new addition to the Seedbay Clan.

Blunted Spectre Modules

lets throw some strain names out there:

Qrazyquake Dog x Blue Heron
Mikado x Purple Diesel
Purple Mayhem x Bog SSK
Vanilla Kush x Purple Diesel
Purple Elephant/ White Widow/ Romulan Joes x Purple Diesel
Amnesia Haze/ Blueberry (pre-2000 DJS) x Blue Heron
Blue Magoo Bx1 F2s (Dynasty)
Lovin' Cup x Purps/ Boss Hogg
Purple Storm x Purple Urkle x Triploi wicked Bx


Cheers

C

[Clarence]

I am working on getting Blunted Spectre genetics live. I'm hoping for an opening drop tomorrow evening. Watch this space.

Cheers
C

[siftedunity]

Originally Posted by Tonygreen

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Danbuds POTM winner:

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They are all resin machines but some will be truly spectacular so keep an eye out guys!

those look great, am I correct in thinking this is a gg4 bx2, rather than a gorilla bubble bx2? or has the original cross in fact been bx'ed to the gorilla bubble twice?

[rockymountainJ]

Originally Posted by siftedunity

those look great, am I correct in thinking this is a gg4 bx2, rather than a gorilla bubble bx2? or has the original cross in fact been bx'ed to the gorilla bubble twice?

If this helps https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=313330
Tonys thread, lots of good info!!
Got a couple bx2 in link top below!!
Cheers!!
Rmj

[siftedunity]

not really..

[Tonygreen]

Sifted, gg4 x sour bubble f2'ed, then male selection from those F2 back to the gg4 cut, a new male from each ensuing generation selected crossed back to the gg4 cut described by each bx gen.

This is best described correctly as something of a gg4 near isogenic line.

The plan is to get to bx4 and then obtain another bx4 gg4 NIL to make a recombinant inbred line.
It will be awhile...

You are correct on your first assumption.
Gorilla bubble was the name we picked for the original F1, I was not going to call it gg4 bx because I didn't want to mislead anyone into thinking there was a gg4 male when in fact we made our own male.
Instead of starting the back cross with a random outcross I wanted to make a male using glue genetics then start the back cross process to keep out any extra genetics. This is a key difference from
my process and for example Bros. Grimm Bx work on c99. There is really no unrelated genetics floating in the family here.

[siftedunity]

Originally Posted by Tonygreen

Sifted, gg4 x sour bubble f2'ed, then male selection from those F2 back to the gg4 cut, a new male from each ensuing generation selected crossed back to the gg4 cut described by each bx gen.

This is best described correctly as something of a gg4 near isogenic line.

The plan is to get to bx4 and then obtain another bx4 gg4 NIL to make a recombinant inbred line.
It will be awhile...

You are correct on your first assumption.
Gorilla bubble was the name we picked for the original F1, I was not going to call it gg4 bx because I didn't want to mislead anyone into thinking there was a gg4 male when in fact we made our own male.
Instead of starting the back cross with a random outcross I wanted to make a male using glue genetics then start the back cross process to keep out any extra genetics. This is a key difference from
my process and for example Bros. Grimm Bx work on c99. There is really no unrelated genetics floating in the family here.

ok thanks for the clarification. so basically its a backcross hybrid. so atm its a gg4 bx2 hybrid.
but would be a recombinant line I guess after you have found the two bx4s and bred more generations.
I think its great, I love the ambition, but what is the point? I mean surely its just gonna be pointless taking it past a bx 4 because of the negative sides of inbreeding etc? and you would already have isolated most of the gg4 genes already by the time you have got to the bx3?
just a thought..

[Tonygreen]

The intial goals Dan and I have been met, you can find phenos we were looking for in many of the side lines I created bx1f1 etc. Dan wanted a glue pheno with more structure, I wanted a sour bubble with vigor unlocked. You can find both of those easily in many of the side branches of the family. The terpene profile of the gg4 is easy to find in any plant in a pack basically.

Going forward with my studies the goals have increased.
You cannot stabilize a genotype with back crossing alone.
After I obtain the RIL, it is possible to stabilize the genome completely within roughly 11 generations or so.
If I get to that point I will still be under 50 years old and believe I will have a p-1 pool to make supreme F1's that will be unmatched. People hold on to their homozygous lines, if you want one you have to basically make your own... I, like many am tired of watered down F1's. A true F1 made with two distinct stable lines can potentially blow random poly hybrid f1's out of the water.
So it is all work with the eye for the future dude.

There are a few bx3's I made and I am selecting for the bx4 now.
Then onto working the other NIL I need. I have one at bx1...
Ideally I would like several NIL to work with toward the RIL project.

It will be some time, much work to do, might not ever get there... In the meantime these bx lines are truly made for outcrossing and providing keeper cuts, they will combine exceptionally well and make supreme F1's, a side benefit of the work in the meantime.

Also to comment on the negative side affects of inbreeding. I believe these can be minimized with proper selection. To be sure their is some mutants, the recessive phenos have decreased every bx.
But the dominant phenos maintain vigor really well. One of my vigor tests is a topping test where I judge many responses to topping. I think this has allowed the line to remain vigorous.
The two main overall phenos (glue dom/sour b dom/recessive) are easy to pick out from seedling at this point.