[MAHA KALA]

Originally Posted by Mustafunk

North India? Aren't those supposed to be pure Pakis?

Amazing picture by the way.... I would say they totally look like CBG's Purple Paki!

Peace.

yes that was my first thought, it looks like pck...

[FireIn.TheSky]

I think Tom said the entire N. Indian project seeds were eaten by rats and he would have to start over, then he made mention of raids and that was right before he left here for good.

[Gizmo]

damn where is the man, is he safe ? he was one of the best of the forum to me, i hope he is on the hill or somewhere mind surfing on isle 9, long time no see and i dont like that

[GoatCheese]

I sent in three X18 samples for the DNA project and Sam just pm'd me they had arrived. Might take a while till the results will be uploaded on Phylos Galaxy, but soon enough we will have better idea what's in X18.

I sent in two samples from Tom Hill's line and one sample coming from Reserva Privada's X18.

[frostqueen]

Originally Posted by GoatCheese

I sent in three X18 samples for the DNA project and Sam just pm'd me they had arrived. Might take a while till the results will be uploaded on Phylos Galaxy, but soon enough we will have better idea what's in X18.

I sent in two samples from Tom Hill's line and one sample coming from Reserva Privada's X18.

Reserva's version is a cross with another strain, isn't it? Looking forward to seeing data on the Tom Hill for sure, though!

I have been trying to get my X18 seeds to germ. I got what were probably the last 4 packs out there. I threw them in the fridge for a month first thing, then tried to germ 10. The first 10 didn't germ.

I used 200 ppm GA3 and a bit of hydrogen peroxide on the second 10 three days ago and have seen 1 tail emerge so far. It may or may not poop out on me. All I need is either a male and a female or two females...

[heady blunts]

got a pack as a freebie froma recent bay order

tagged for future reference.



has anyone ever used x18 as an outcross for an og line?

[GoatCheese]

Originally Posted by frostqueen

Reserva's version is a cross with another strain, isn't it?

No it's pure X18 only made with one female and one male, while Tom Hill's X18 was made with open-polination using many females and males

[acespicoli]

I emailed DNA because on the website it says 99% indica their reply was it's because it has 1% sativa
Always thought Tom Hills was 100% selected landrace paki indica?

X18 Pure Pakistani
Pure Pakistani Landrace
99% Indica : 1% Sativa
Flowering Time: 8-9 Weeks
Yield: 450-600g/m2

Comical I really don't get it myself.....I'm not saying they don't have some decent product's just confusing

[GoatCheese]

Originally Posted by acespicoli

I emailed DNA because on the website it says 99% indica their reply was it's because it has 1% sativa
Always thought Tom Hills was 100% selected landrace paki indica?

X18 Pure Pakistani
Pure Pakistani Landrace
99% Indica : 1% Sativa
Flowering Time: 8-9 Weeks
Yield: 450-600g/m2

Comical I really don't get it myself.....I'm not saying they don't have some decent product's just confusing

Hey
X18 is not a 100% indica, not Tom Hill's nor DNA's X18. If you look at the tent photos of the Tom Hill X18 open-poli seed run, you can see some plants that are very much sativa. You can find these X18 tent photos in my "Misc" album.

The only male Tom Hill x18 that i had and flowered was very, very stretchy with very sativa-looking colas. And i can spot the same type in those TH open-poli photos.



EDIT:
It's also wrong to call X18 a "landrace" because the seeds were found in Pakistani import hash, nobody collected them from wild/feral paki plants.
It's a hash-cultivar, most likely created By a farmer.
Like i have mentioned before, imo, it has N. Indian sativa in it, i believe it's Manali.

[Kalbhairav]

The problem here is with definition. Indica and Sativa are outmoded definitions in the cannabis world. This is why some are using the terms wide leaf drug (WLD) and narrow leaf drug (NLD) to describe appearance. If you travel throughout Nepal and the foothills of the Himalayas you'll find all types of expressions - these range from tall lanky thin leaved plants, squat wide leafed plants, tall lanky wide leafed plants and squat thin leafed plants. Point being is that the diversity of genetics and traits in this area outweighs our terrible categorising system.

If you travel the Himalayas you'll find that farmers cannabis plots can look very much different even in the next valley to each other.

If the plots are selectively bred then you're going to get more plants that are going to look similar.

Tom's x18 for sure is predominantly WLD. The seed that started the gene pool may or may not of been selected for generations in Pakistan before they got to the US. Also, I think Tom said that the 'Scientist' also removed traits that would negatively impact on the gene pool. Other than this it's an OP..

All my x18 were squat wide leaved Afghanica type structure until I grew cuts indoors. The nodes then gathered space between them. It isn't 'Sativa' by any stretch of the imagination in my eyes. Maybe you could call some genotypes 'stretch Indica's but it has no tropical, equatorial traits in flower structure.

Just my 2 cents