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HillMizer · 04-12-2016, 05:07 AM

Hey y'all. I've been lurking and learning on this a long time. Thanks So much to Tom Hill, Butte, HumboldLocal, BYF, Schrews, a bunch more of y'all. I'm hoping I can make some good contributions on here.

I've been doing a lot of dep and 30 ish plant full season in Nevada County for a while. I did that garden last season and made a new one at my property in El Dorado. I'm only in El Dorado this year. 2800ft elevation.

I'll be doing 30ish full season and 1000 square foot dep. This year.

Been cutting some trees, making some light. I'm using the logs for building material and firewood.

Soil tests have been done and amendments are weighed ready to be tilled in along with cover crop.

I'm amending the 200 gallon pots first then adding another yard of soil. I made some homemade 400 gallon rings using filter fabric and construction adhesive to make a double hemmed seam.

Squirreldawg is on the lookout for the deer that are the cover crop from that pot.

Thanks y'all, It's going to be a fun year.

_tessarecting · 04-12-2016, 05:15 AM

Hellz yea

HillMizer · 04-12-2016, 05:19 AM

I'm off to a slower start than usual. I've been running a lot of Blue Dream and Cheese clones for years. I usually take cuttings on Valentine's day.
I think the later start is for the best, but I like to flip my dep on May 10.

Full season seedlings to pick from.

Bodhi Sky Lotus
Bodhi Snow Leopard
DJ Short Azure Haze
Dinafem Super Critical Haze
Cali Connect Deadhead O.G.
Reservoir SSSDH
Greenhouse SSH

Light dep:
Blue Dream
Super Lemon Haze

These are Sky Lotus

Squirreldawg checking on the SSSDH

Super Critical and in the lead with Sky Lotus CLOSE behind. Popped them last week of March?

04-12-2016, 05:20 AM

sounds good ,

HillMizer · 04-12-2016, 06:00 AM

I started by sending a soil sample of last year's vermifire to Logan labs. It looked good, not high in anything.

I had Bill Mckibben, author of The Art Of Balancing Soil Nutrients take a look at it. We talked for a while about my soil and I answered some of his questions about the cannabis industry. At the end of the conversation I had the feeling that he was very unaccustomed to working with soiless mixes with such high % of organic materials. He said I could likely double the amounts he recommended due to the light weight of my soil (seems backward) He was generous with his time and told me to call anytime.

Next I had Jeremy Silva of Build-a-soil.com take a look at my soil. He was generous with his time as well. He filled some worksheets out and sent them over.

Jeremy appears to have used an equal p2O5 to K ration rather than and equal P to K ratio. He also converted lbs/acre to lbs/cubic foot by dividing by the standard 807 which I believe is for soil weighing the standard 2000 lbs.
He recommended neem cake, crustacean, kelp and basalt on top the balancing nutrients. Maybe the extra P is there.

HillMizer · 04-12-2016, 06:07 AM

I'll be using 7' wide x 18" deep planters with 3 micro sprinklers per pot for full season. I use the DAN microsprinkler by Jain Irrigation. It has removable/changeable offices for customizing flow rates, spray width and for cleaning

The orange concave downspray spread also comes seperate and is sometimes backordered from China.

I prefer these opposed to drip for large plants. It is easy to do a visual inspection. I can actually hear whether or not the garden is running properly.

The installation time is very short compared to drip as well.

Here's the Super Lemon Haze for dep:
Just potted

redlaser · 04-12-2016, 07:04 AM

Looks like a good summer ahead at your place, solid setup. Nevada county looks fairly dicey with double the helicopter budget, greenhouses might hold them off for a while. Check out malted barley if you haven't, provides enzymes and chitin that is more usable by the plant than other sources. best incorporated when mixing soil but can be top dressed. cool dog

HillMizer · 04-12-2016, 08:04 AM

Thanks redlasar. I'm interested in that. I've stop adding simple carbs such as molasses and am sure that's a better carb choice. I was thinking of trying sprouted barley foliar as well.

Would I get it from a feed store?

I'm out of Nevada County now altogether. I'm just in El Dorado. Things seem chill up here.

redlaser · 04-12-2016, 05:08 PM

Beer brewing supply places will have the malted barley. Have to get a grinder too if you don't get it pre ground.

HillMizer · 04-14-2016, 08:43 PM

I have 35 yards of Vermisoil to use as a base. I had good luck in the past with Fire but decided to save a little and amend it myself.

Well now I have high K and Sodium. I only have a CEC of 11. Probably a lot of crummy compost in it?

I'm thinking of adding some charcoal from some stump burns that the forest service was doing up the road.
Wondering about charging it. Can I just add it to the soil and water it in? Or should I put it in a 300 gal IBC tote with some N and some EM1?
From what I can tell it's biochar.

I could add some clay instead. Montmorillonite, zeolite, bentonite?

Thanks Y'all.

04-12-2016, 05:07 AM	#1
HillMizer Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Sierra Foothills Posts: 416	No use for a name farms El Dorado 2016 Hey y'all. I've been lurking and learning on this a long time. Thanks So much to Tom Hill, Butte, HumboldLocal, BYF, Schrews, a bunch more of y'all. I'm hoping I can make some good contributions on here. I've been doing a lot of dep and 30 ish plant full season in Nevada County for a while. I did that garden last season and made a new one at my property in El Dorado. I'm only in El Dorado this year. 2800ft elevation. I'll be doing 30ish full season and 1000 square foot dep. This year. Been cutting some trees, making some light. I'm using the logs for building material and firewood. Soil tests have been done and amendments are weighed ready to be tilled in along with cover crop. I'm amending the 200 gallon pots first then adding another yard of soil. I made some homemade 400 gallon rings using filter fabric and construction adhesive to make a double hemmed seam. Squirreldawg is on the lookout for the deer that are the cover crop from that pot. Thanks y'all, It's going to be a fun year.
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04-12-2016, 05:15 AM	#2
_tessarecting ஓ Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 3,852	Hellz yea __________________
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04-12-2016, 05:19 AM	#3
HillMizer Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Sierra Foothills Posts: 416	I'm off to a slower start than usual. I've been running a lot of Blue Dream and Cheese clones for years. I usually take cuttings on Valentine's day. I think the later start is for the best, but I like to flip my dep on May 10. Full season seedlings to pick from. Bodhi Sky Lotus Bodhi Snow Leopard DJ Short Azure Haze Dinafem Super Critical Haze Cali Connect Deadhead O.G. Reservoir SSSDH Greenhouse SSH Light dep: Blue Dream Super Lemon Haze These are Sky Lotus Squirreldawg checking on the SSSDH Super Critical and in the lead with Sky Lotus CLOSE behind. Popped them last week of March?
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04-12-2016, 05:20 AM	#4
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04-12-2016, 06:00 AM	#5
HillMizer Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Sierra Foothills Posts: 416	I started by sending a soil sample of last year's vermifire to Logan labs. It looked good, not high in anything. I had Bill Mckibben, author of The Art Of Balancing Soil Nutrients take a look at it. We talked for a while about my soil and I answered some of his questions about the cannabis industry. At the end of the conversation I had the feeling that he was very unaccustomed to working with soiless mixes with such high % of organic materials. He said I could likely double the amounts he recommended due to the light weight of my soil (seems backward) He was generous with his time and told me to call anytime. Next I had Jeremy Silva of Build-a-soil.com take a look at my soil. He was generous with his time as well. He filled some worksheets out and sent them over. Jeremy appears to have used an equal p2O5 to K ration rather than and equal P to K ratio. He also converted lbs/acre to lbs/cubic foot by dividing by the standard 807 which I believe is for soil weighing the standard 2000 lbs. He recommended neem cake, crustacean, kelp and basalt on top the balancing nutrients. Maybe the extra P is there.
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04-12-2016, 06:07 AM	#6
HillMizer Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Sierra Foothills Posts: 416	I'll be using 7' wide x 18" deep planters with 3 micro sprinklers per pot for full season. I use the DAN microsprinkler by Jain Irrigation. It has removable/changeable offices for customizing flow rates, spray width and for cleaning The orange concave downspray spread also comes seperate and is sometimes backordered from China. I prefer these opposed to drip for large plants. It is easy to do a visual inspection. I can actually hear whether or not the garden is running properly. The installation time is very short compared to drip as well. Here's the Super Lemon Haze for dep: Just potted
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04-12-2016, 07:04 AM	#7
redlaser Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,433	Looks like a good summer ahead at your place, solid setup. Nevada county looks fairly dicey with double the helicopter budget, greenhouses might hold them off for a while. Check out malted barley if you haven't, provides enzymes and chitin that is more usable by the plant than other sources. best incorporated when mixing soil but can be top dressed. cool dog
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04-12-2016, 08:04 AM	#8
HillMizer Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Sierra Foothills Posts: 416	Thanks redlasar. I'm interested in that. I've stop adding simple carbs such as molasses and am sure that's a better carb choice. I was thinking of trying sprouted barley foliar as well. Would I get it from a feed store? I'm out of Nevada County now altogether. I'm just in El Dorado. Things seem chill up here.
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04-12-2016, 05:08 PM	#9
redlaser Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,433	Beer brewing supply places will have the malted barley. Have to get a grinder too if you don't get it pre ground.
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04-14-2016, 08:43 PM	#10
HillMizer Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Sierra Foothills Posts: 416	Adding charcoal to increase CEC I have 35 yards of Vermisoil to use as a base. I had good luck in the past with Fire but decided to save a little and amend it myself. Well now I have high K and Sodium. I only have a CEC of 11. Probably a lot of crummy compost in it? I'm thinking of adding some charcoal from some stump burns that the forest service was doing up the road. Wondering about charging it. Can I just add it to the soil and water it in? Or should I put it in a 300 gal IBC tote with some N and some EM1? From what I can tell it's biochar. I could add some clay instead. Montmorillonite, zeolite, bentonite? Thanks Y'all.
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