Liquid Co2 extractions

whereisbrianV. · Apr 6, 2016

Greetings and welcome,

In the following thread I will profess my love for all that beautiful oil that comes from the Sub critical extractions.

Lets start with some examples of Liquid Co2 extracts.

Rickys bong · Apr 7, 2016

What pressure and temp are you using?

thegreenman91 · Apr 7, 2016

And what is the water content of the final product, and of the material in the vessle? What system are you running?

FishmanK · Apr 7, 2016

Dude!
That's like the Washington Monument of Extractors!

Co2lover · Apr 7, 2016

Is it possible to get some crumble out of CO2? Straight out of the machine?

whereisbrianV. · Apr 8, 2016

We run under 1056 psi and set the chiller to 0c.

These extractions were ran in a 5 liter Apeks.

The water content is around 2 to 5% largely due to the way the Apeks moves Co2 around. Our new designs have in filtration to remove impurities like water.

Crumble and shatters are possible but you must fraction off the water and terpenes to create a stable extract.

Chris@psico2 · Apr 11, 2016

yes it os

yes it os

Co2lover said:
Is it possible to get some crumble out of CO2? Straight out of the machine?

It's more than possible with the right machine! Here are a few pics of some final product straight from the collection chamber. Almost completly dewaxed as well.

Chris@psico2 · Apr 11, 2016

yes it is

yes it is

Co2lover said:
Is it possible to get some crumble out of CO2? Straight out of the machine?

It's more than possible with the right machine! Here are a few pics of some final product straight from the collection chamber. Almost completly dewaxed as well.

Chris@psico2 · Apr 11, 2016

Sorry for the double post.

whereisbrianV. · Apr 15, 2016

Chris@psico2 can't see the pictures guy

Here is a little experiment I ran, wanted to see how much extract was left in the Co2 at the end of the cycle.

The extract is Purple Nug Bud that tested at 71% thc.

Chris@psico2 · Apr 16, 2016

Weird they were there the other day. Hopefully these work.

thegreenman91 · Apr 16, 2016

Chris@psico2 said:
Weird they were there the other day. Hopefully these work.

How is the flavor? And is it easy to handle? We've had similar results before however it was unbelievably sticky, contained some residual water still and wasn't a particularly tasty product...

What was the water content of these extracts?

Chris@psico2 · Apr 16, 2016

thegreenman91 said:
How is the flavor? And is it easy to handle? We've had similar results before however it was unbelievably sticky, contained some residual water still and wasn't a particularly tasty product...

What was the water content of these extracts?

The consistancy of the extract is very similar to hydrocarbon extractions. Crumble or crystalline consistany. 12-15% returns and 68-75% THC without having to winterize(with good sugar trim). The flavors are excellent, people are always shocked that it is a CO2 product. Terps average around 1.5-2% and there is currentlys terp trap in the works . The unit is unique to the industry if the fact the it focuses on pulling solid compounds, not botanical oils. It uses a patent pending inline fraction system, which targets cannabinoids and this in turn speeds up extraction times up to 5 times faster.

Below is a pic of some of the concentrate after going straight into the vac oven. Able to get a consistent snap and pull without having to winterize.

whereisbrianV. · Apr 19, 2016

How much THC-A compared to THC?

You are using a mechanical fractional separation by depressurizing into a cylinder with a down steam turned at a angle to cause a vortex which centrifuges the extract into fractions. I have a problem with this style of separation because it works fine on a clean cylinder, but as soon as extract starts to accumulate on the walls of the cylinder the drag created disrupts the vortex. This combined with the inevitable accumulation of Liquid Co2 in the bottom of the cylinder will spell doom for all things down stream from the separator.

Chris@psico2 · Apr 19, 2016

There are other systems that use this method, we do NOT. We have a patent pending separatory technology that is NOT being used by anyone else in the industry.

Here are a few lab results.

Chris@psico2 · Apr 19, 2016

The thumbnail did not seem to work. My other lab results are to large to load right now.

whereisbrianV. · Apr 21, 2016

Those test look good, however I would prefer to see less decarb THC. The terpene levels seem really low, so much so that I wouldn't bother running strain specific loads if I couldn't expect to have more than 3% terpenes. My question to you would be, were are the terpenes going?

How about some Terpy Liquid Co2 Goodness?

Weedpaws · Apr 21, 2016

About the consistency of CO2 final product. Is it possible to end up with a shatter like form that actually shatter? Even if it requires wintherization or not.

Chris@psico2 · Apr 21, 2016

Shatter is possible. Some strains obtain shatter consistency more easily than others.

Chris@psico2 · Apr 21, 2016

whereisbrianV. said:
Those test look good, however I would prefer to see less decarb THC. The terpene levels seem really low, so much so that I wouldn't bother running strain specific loads if I couldn't expect to have more than 3% terpenes. My question to you would be, were are the terpenes going?

How about some Terpy Liquid Co2 Goodness?
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We find that it is better to use the PSICO2 method that targets cannabinoids, especially when looking at the price points that other systems cost. Why target the terpenes when you want cannabinoids? It isn't that terpenes aren't valuable or beneficial, but current CO2 tech has not been producing extracts anywhere near the quality that BHO extracts have produced, so why focus on terpene rich concentrate if you are missing what you were going after? BHO has set the standard and these sappy CO2 oils drenched in ethanol and PG aren't up to par.
Terpenes don't "go" anywhere which is why were are developing new methods which collect those compounds, without taking from the efficiency or quality of the cannabinoid extract. There are phenotypical differences from extract to extract. We hosted a dab bar last week and had a High Times cannabis cup judge try three samples, one shatter, a pull and snap, and a crumble. He has never liked CO2 oil. Though unofficially, he stated it was the best he had ever had and that he actually would use it for personal. Many imitators will try and retrofit botanical oil technologies to apply to cannabinoids, our systems are not retrofitted nor are they standard by any means. We design for cannabinoids and in turn we get extracts that are similar to butane.

I'll take crumble and crystalline over oil any day!

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