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Old 08-25-2016, 06:34 PM #31
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Anyway keep being ignorant to sophisticated language. I can't help you. Lawyers are all double talk. I suggest you learn to comprehend what they're saying before they legislate you all into labor camps.

i hope your not talking about me b/c i have no problem comprehending law as it is written and also how its interpreted.

im not the one giving dangerous advice on an interpretation of law not yet written.

all we can go on is the language on the amendment and from what ive read it states nothing regarding home cultivation.



i guess it shouldn't surprise me you cant back up anything. put on your tinfoil hat and proceed.


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and for those who havent read the full text of the amendment its in this link.

https://dos.elections.myflorida.com/i...df/50438-3.pdf


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... the health department will have to go back to work to choose more growers and dispensaries. and it does not immunize any non medical use, which actually means it immunizes medical use...
from the full text of the amendment

LIMITATIONS
(2)Nothing in this section shall affect or repeal laws relati
ng to non-medical use, possession, production, or sale of marijua
na.
(3)Nothing in this section authorizes the use of m
edical marijuana by anyone other than a qualifying patient.



(10)“Qualifying patient” means a person who has been diagnosed to have a debilitating medical condition, who has a physician
certification and a valid qualifying patient identification ca
rd. If the Department does not begin issuing identification cards
within nine (9)months after the effective date of this se
ction, then a valid physiciancertification will serve as a patient identification card in order to allow aperson to become a "qualifying patient" until the Department begins issuing identification cards.




if you dont qualify or have a card then any ammount of Cannabis will still be illegal.


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you can not home grow marijuana in FL under any law, proposal or amendment. FOR has a full legal petition that has no limits on anything but thats way down the line
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Heard today on NPR that the bill passing looks promising. 86% Democrats 68%Republicans...67.8% Overall... let's hope it passes.... Recreational will NEVER make it without med first...
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If the Department does not begin issuing identification cards [/font]
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ction, then a valid physiciancertification will serve as a patient identification card in order to allow aperson to become a "qualifying patient" until the Department begins issuing identification cards.





it clearly says that if they haven't started issuing card by june 2017 your doctors note IS your medical card.

"if there's no dispensaries and no medical cards how else is a sick person supposed to get his medicine your honor? "

:judgebelike: case dismissed.


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development of related products such as food, tinctures, aerosols, oils, or ointments), transfers, transports, sells, distributes, dispenses, or
administers marijuana, products containing marijuana, related supplies, or educational materials to qualifying patients or their caregivers and
is registered by the Department.
says MMTC...doesn't say 'dispensary' the charlottes web bill doesn't have MMTC anywhere in it. therefore the 5 dispensaries are NOT the MMTC spoken of in the amendment 2. an MMTC is exactly as is outlined above.

learn lawyer talk. like i said this is the best thing going and it's pretty loopholey.
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PBL /Stihg,

mmtc or dispensary. wrong word but not interpreted wrong.

and if the state fails to establish guidelines and doesnt issue id cards then the dr. rec. is your i.d. and therefore you are not breaking any laws. why would you be in front of a judge?

how is a law that has not been written loopholey? will there be loop holes, probably but to what extent has yet to be seen.

learn lawyer talk......are you going to teach me. thats assuming you have a greater knowledge of fl criminal law that i do. im down to learn but you have not taught me anything other than i used the wrong word describing where a patient buys their Cannabis meds.

anyway, i hope you never run foul of the law and have to put your defense in action.


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how is a law that has not been written loopholey? will there be loop holes, probably but to what extent has yet to be seen.
A.) dunno why you keep calling me stihg the name clearly says pbl.

B.) i guess the crux of our argument is that you don't understand that these words here are the law. My mistake.

I'm afraid i didn't read the rest of what you wrote. I figured because B.) everything else you said was prolly wrong too.
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A.) dunno why you keep calling me stihg the name clearly says pbl.
Cause you are Stigh - and anybody that's been here before would recognize you from a mile away.

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B.) i guess the crux of our argument is that you don't understand that these words here are the law. My mistake. .
No, they are not the law, they are the words of proposed legislation. And to have this corrupt legislative body "sort out the details" after it passes means people that pay get to play and no body else gets in on the deal. Not me, not you, nobody but the players with the $$$ to make it happen.

Did you not notice how Adam Putnam rewarded his large agri-business constituents on the Charlotte's Web bill and it still took them 2 years to make medicine available to sick people?

Did anybody even legally challenge how those growers got the Charlottes Web genetics into Florida and across all the state lines where cannabis remains illegal??

Maybe you should try to fully comprehend a broadly worded proposed amendment that the legislature can still twist into anything that they want it to be before spouting ill advised legal advice to the general public and encouraging illegal home grows that will get people busted.

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I'm afraid i didn't read the rest of what you wrote. I figured because B.) everything else you said was prolly wrong too.
Cheeb was more than polite with you, and more than once. You literally have no idea what you're talking about from a legal or political perspective. Please stop encouraging people to undertake activities that you are presenting as quasi legal which will not be legal under any sane interpretation of this amendment.
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