[gaiusmarius]

a belated welcome to IC mag, always nice to see the old timers showing up.
what happened with PG in the end. i remember some crazy entertaining threads, regarding, shall we say, forum politics, lmao.

edited to add:

you need 50 posts and 1 week membership time to get full account privileges, you have the time for sure lol....just the posts needed.

[Prawn Connery]

Cheers for the heads-up on posting.

PG was built and funded by a Canadian programmer and former OG member (Ethical Grower/Gadabout) who was my old sparring partner in the Shark Tank. He invited me to be his partner in a new venture (planetganja.com) at the end of 2004, as he needed someone to help build the front end and administer the site. There were always a few minor issues between us - mostly ideological about the running of the site (including how I handled the POM saga - I'm a bit of an avowed anarchist, and probably let things go a bit far in the name of "free speech"), but also Gad's complaining about paying the bills while at the same time not wanting to accept financial help via donations and/or subs.

He might have been sick of paying the bills, but most members were also sick of being reminded of this fact, as well as ongoing threats to close the site. Sometime in 2010 I woke to find we'd been taken offline. It wasn't the first time. Eventually, after a bit of negotiation with potential partners, Gad agreed to hand over the keys and Smokebreaks - who now owns and runs myplanetganja.com - would provide a server for the migration and foot the bills with the aim of trying to become self-funded through advertising, donations and site auctions to keep planetganja going as an independent resource.

However, when it came time to hand over the keys, Gad reneged and pulled the site for good. He spun a story about how his real-life business partner had "stolen" the server on which PG was based, and that his partner had "disappeared". Later, Gad claimed he'd taken it down himself due to "security issues".

The bottom line was that someone spat the dummy and took his bat and ball, as well as four years' worth of grow logs and everything else. There is, of course, another side to the story, but consensus is Gad was sick of paying the bills and simply preferred to pull the plug rather than hand over all his hard work for nothing. His ideal was to build the site into something he could later sell. My ideal was to have somewhere to grow and play - like the old OG Shark Tank - with a minimum of moderation, vested interests and site politics. Idealism doesn't pay the bills and capitalism benefits the few . . .

Gad's since offered to hand the planetganja.com domain over and help out at myplanetganga, but there's not a lot of good will and, frankly, few trust him after what he did to PG. I've had nothing to do with the new site apart from being a regular member, so kudos to those who have continued the legacy of the old "Stank". Though I guess it's not much of a legacy these days.

But we can still reminisce.

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Looks like my sorry saga is ending on a good foot.

Yesterday 2 Scotland Yard Extradition Squad detectives dropped by to see me, to give me my passport back after taking it off me in November 2016 when I was arrested, charged and bailed on this now de-funked extradition charge. Hand delivered no less.

Now that the USA's case to try and legally extradite me thru the British courts has failed, I am no longer on bail, so qualify in getting my passport back (and here it is), although I don't plan on using it to go travel anywhere right now, what with an Interpol Red Notice still active, it would most probably be sheer folly.

A passport is very important to a Gypsy, and already I have had certified copies made at the local solicitors which is one of the requirements for the wife's visa....still need a couple more bits and pieces for that.

Still....its all rolling along nicely Brigadier.....looks like my life is turning up roses again.

[brown_thumb]

AWESOME, GYPSY. SAM IS MY UNCLE BUT FUCK HIM!!

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[Spaventa]

Originally Posted by Gypsy Nirvana

Looks like my sorry saga is ending on a good foot.

Yesterday 2 Scotland Yard Extradition Squad detectives dropped by to see me, to give me my passport back after taking it off me in November 2016 when I was arrested, charged and bailed on this now de-funked extradition charge. Hand delivered no less.

Now that the USA's case to try and legally extradite me thru the British courts has failed, I am no longer on bail, so qualify in getting my passport back (and here it is), although I don't plan on using it to go travel anywhere right now, what with an Interpol Red Notice still active, it would most probably be sheer folly.

A passport is very important to a Gypsy, and already I have had certified copies made at the local solicitors which is one of the requirements for the wife's visa....still need a couple more bits and pieces for that.

Still....its all rolling along nicely Brigadier.....looks like my life is turning up roses again.

Thats cool and I concur on the travel plans until interplod have caught up with events or whatever it takes for them to FO. More interesting than that however... are you an actual proper Gypsy, Gypsy?

[Gypsy Nirvana]

Originally Posted by Spaventa

Thats cool and I concur on the travel plans until interplod have caught up with events or whatever it takes for them to FO. More interesting than that however... are you an actual proper Gypsy, Gypsy?

Well, in all seriousness I was born in a caravan on Mixnams Farm in Chertsey Surrey and my Mum named me after some Welsh prince, because her family hailed from that way, so I ended up with a name with no vowels.....that hardly anyone could say, so I changed it legally to the name I have been known as online for the past 20 years - Gypsy Nirvana in 2004...

Some people have called me a pikey amongst many other colourful names, and others have called me Gypsy for years, (because I used to travel alot) which doesn't mean that I belong to any currently travelling or static Roma communities....or ever did. Its just what I am known as online and in real life these days.

[Spaventa]

Well now we know thanks for indulging my nosiness mate