[Weeded1s]

I stopped usng it as well

[Old Toker]

Thanks to you guys.....I never started.

[RedBeardy5]

Well I quit using it and my flood tables left a white residue that was impossible to scrub off, I'm guessing its salt. So I started the pekacid up again and no more residue, so I'm still using it.....

[shaggyballs]

The Functions of Orthophosphates/Polyphosphates:

Polyphosphates provide many functions including the sequestering of iron and manganese and with the alkali earth metals such as calcium and magnesium. Each type of polyphosphate exhibits a different reactive sequestering rate for each of these metals/minerals. Polyphosphate also cleans or dissolves precipitated mineral scale that already exists in water distribution lines.

Hexametaphosphates (polyphosphate) inhibits scale formation caused by calcium and magnesium through sequestration and crystal growth modification at a rate 20 times more effective than the pyrophosphates. However, the pyrophosphates can sequester iron and manganese at a rate 16 times more effective than the hexametaphosphates.

Typically, in order to sequester iron, manganese and calcium it requires a 1:1 mole ratio with polyphosphate. This is generally achievable when dealing with iron and manganese that are usually in levels that are less than 5 mg/L. However, polyphosphates act as crystal modifiers that need only a fraction of that ratio to effectively modify the crystalline structure of calcium/magnesium. In theory, a hexametaphosphate dosage of 500 mg/L is required to actually sequester 200 mg/L of calcium (as calcium carbonate). However, a dosage of only 2 -4 mg/L of hexametaphosphate is all that is required to modify the crystal growth of calcium carbonate. By modifying the crystalline structure, these compounds will not precipitate into scale and actually stay in solution through repelling and suspension. This crystal growth modification function prevents the formation of mineral scale within water distribution systems. Polyphosphates will also dissolve already deposited mineral scale deposits within the system thereby increasing the carrying capacity of the water system. Polyphosphates are cathodic inhibitors that interfere with the cathodic site of the electrochemical corrosion cell formation. Anodic and cathodic electronic reactions are the two components necessary for the development of electrochemical corrosion. See: This interference greatly reduces the rate of internal metallic corrosion within water distribution systems.

Orthophosphates on the other hand are used primarily as a corrosion inhibitor with its ability to create passivity film on the surface of distribution pipe. Orthophosphate is also an anodic inhibitor that interferes with the electrochemical corrosion cell formation’s anodic site that can develop on the surface of metallic pipe material. With this interference, along with the created barrier between the water and pipe surface, internal pipe corrosion is greatly reduced.

Crop-Tech Consults: Ortho Vs. Poly-Phosphate

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Ortho vs Poly

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[tiffa]

Originally Posted by stoned40yrs

Not anymore. I started using it when I got blumats. First dripclean then mixing my own with pekacid. Then some guys on here started saying it doesn't do anything so I quit using it and didn't see any difference with or without. I don't believe in feeding high ec nutes though. If you like it then keep using it

Are you still going good without the drip clean? I'm a blumater and would also like drop it too (except for an occasional tonic)

[epicseeds]

So is that all Drip Clean is? Nothing more than a solution of NPK 0-18.7-6.1 - whats the science behind simply running some P/K through drip lines causing it to clear salts?

[Trich_Tyson]

I've been curious about what exactly drip clean is, and what it does.. so thanks for shining the light. I was skeptical but bought a little bottle on recommendation of a few reputable heads on the boards.
Using it, feels snake oily.
I was using it mainly with my over grown, root bound solo cup moms to try to avoid lockout as much as possible when they dry out too much, and to not deal with as much runoff..
I also grabbed barley pond enzyme for the same purpose..
IMO the enzyme works better, and i continue to use it.. I don't know if they even serve similar purposes, but that's how i was using them.