Whats everyone's thoughts..
Do you think we should stay or leave the Euro zone ?
And what affect will it have on any future attempts at canna legalization ?
One thing I do know is how much poli"trick" bullshit are they gonna feed us over the next few months with them trying to win votes for one side or the other, its gonna be interesting to say the least.
I'm undecided at the moment though but it might not matter if I get my visa to get the f**k outta here.
But I'm also not that sure what affect it would have on legalizing the herb, a lot euro countries do seem to be a lot more relaxed than us and I'd be worried that our government on its own might bring in harsher penalties.


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Raspaul

[Green81]

Hey raspaul, I reckon it will make zero difference being in or out, trade would still exist with or without it. £ 50 million a day just to be in the eu, that's for the uk but I would imagine similar costing for countries. To top it off the European Union hasn't been audited for over 20 years so we have no idea on how the real money is being spent or who's back pockets it's going in to.
There will always be a brotherhood with Europe but to be told how to live by Brussels is fucking ridiculous. This means the people have very little power in changing local laws that are Pertinent to them, culture fades into some Bobby bullshit mashup.

Sorry for rant, I love the European countries, just dislike the bigwigs.

[VonBudí]

uk will stay. Cant see the benefit of leaving for the average brit, seems only the city and party donors would benefit by having labour laws and other pesky laws like the human rights act flushed away.

[Green81]

Hmm have we looked at the financial status of most of Europe? Banks like to throw there weight around, there's a reason why the city of London exists. Financial capital of Europe for many hundreds of years....
The way I see it, Europe was trading before the creation of the eu and will continue to do whatever happens, why can't there be a united Europe without Brussels controlling powers?

So, the idea of a European Union is great, be it less controlling.

I honestly thought most people would want out, but nearly everybody I've spoken to want's to stay in.
Is anyone looking at how the Scottish referendum went and using that as a basis for this one ?
The Scots were being promised all sorts to stay part of the UK and they took the bait, I wonder if they would vote the same way now..
Probably not and they might not get another chance at it.
And I reckon the same will happen with this one, they'll promise us loads to stay in, we will and then get nothing in return

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Raspaul

There was a really interesting piece on the Guardian about this - related to that absolute fucking **** Boris Johnson - and some of the comments laid out exactly what we had benefited from by being part of the EU. The most noticeable were things like a Human Rights law, minimum wage, vast collective bargaining power at the WTO - things such as having to re-negotiate individual trade agreements with 53 other nations, the cost of being isolated whilst having all of our closest neighbours in the EU were glossed over.
One of the assumptions from the "Out" camp appears to be that once the people have spoken, the EU will open its arms to get the UK back in, new deals, more favourable terms and so on - the most likely outcome is a big fat "meh, well fuck off then, we'll get on better without your poxy little island anyway" and the country will be well and truly up the creek without a paddle.

[Hermanthegerman]

I hope that the brits stay in, it´s more a win/win situation for booth sides. If the brits make a brexit, there are coming real tough times for the english economy.

[VonBudí]

i dont want to point fingers but uk needs to stay in to keep an eye on certain nations cough cough

Originally Posted by Baron Greenback

the country will be well and truly up the creek without a paddle.

you will be made an example of for sure .Wouldnt be surprised if the uk started it own union for us non mainlanders.

[Kalbhairav]

I'll vote to stay in..

The 'Is Britain part of Europe' question has a very long history. Our little island has always wanted to be a part of the whole but a step away from it.

"One way to describe this relationship would be to say that the United Kingdom has always been a partner of Europe without being a full participant in it." - https://www.historytoday.com/david-ab...or-part-europe

Not the best article and a little biased but gives an idea of how others think about the whole thing.

In my eyes it's almost a geological question. We're a part of the European continental plate and the only thing that separates us is a thin strip of water. That strip of water in some ways makes us think we're very separate. Unfortunately economically and politically it does. Some things cost a lot more in the UK than else where in Europe because of that thin strip of water. But is that because of greed and the fact that we're willing to pay more than most others for things? I don't know.

As for the cannabis question, I think we'll see more European countries loosen up before we do but who knows.

I'll vote to stay in. I love diversity and not afraid of change

[ChaosCatalunya]

The EU started as a trading agreement, free borders and soem unified laws and standards, a good idea, it presented a far more effective and efficient front for the emerging global market, unified and able to do Pete against the US and others.

The problems really started when it began to become a sself sustaining beast, with a vested interest in its own growth, in its own expansion and the increased in powers.

When were we asked if we want to secede sovereignty to Europe ? Why should European Union government in Brussels control the UK, our laws and now ,borders? The UK voted for the Conservatives, and by a massive margin, not to be controlled by a self serving Socialist super state that is constantly trying to increase its powers over us and constanly grow into an ever bigger Government that just lines their pockets at our expense.