[Hashmasta-Kut]

Let me relate a story about how it went when i switched from smoking all the time(bud and hash or kif), to vaporizing(oil).

Now I have worked in labor jobs for many years, over a decade at one place. Me and some friends always smoked up every break and usually before work too, so every two hours. Back when we smoked, by the next break, 2 hours later, lethargy and negativity were hard to fight, and that next toke was looked on as a very needed re-upping, which would last maybe an hour. Then a few of us switched to vaping oil, and all of a sudden, there was almost 0 lethargy, and at the end of a shift going to get high, we would usually be very upbeat, still making stoner jokes, because we were still high! ALmost 0 burnout when inhaling vapor, and smoking is complelely different. Especially certain things, i recall even abstaining at a time all we could get was import hash( late 80s), and It would make me so sleepy i could hardly handle it. I found it a great benefit vaporizing all day compared to smoking. I like the odd bit of smoke in the evening.

[ZiggyStardust]

Originally Posted by Hashmasta-Kut

Let me relate a story about how it went when i switched from smoking all the time(bud and hash or kif), to vaporizing(oil).

Now I have worked in labor jobs for many years, over a decade at one place. Me and some friends always smoked up every break and usually before work too, so every two hours. Back when we smoked, by the next break, 2 hours later, lethargy and negativity were hard to fight, and that next toke was looked on as a very needed re-upping, which would last maybe an hour. Then a few of us switched to vaping oil, and all of a sudden, there was almost 0 lethargy, and at the end of a shift going to get high, we would usually be very upbeat, still making stoner jokes, because we were still high! ALmost 0 burnout when inhaling vapor, and smoking is complelely different. Especially certain things, i recall even abstaining at a time all we could get was import hash( late 80s), and It would make me so sleepy i could hardly handle it. I found it a great benefit vaporizing all day compared to smoking. I like the odd bit of smoke in the evening.

nice story man!
here where i live, neither vaporizing nor concentrates are very popular... i wanted to ask you this: what do you use to vaporize oil? (especially when on the go). i have 2 herbal vaporizers (a Plenty and a Alfa), sometimes i vape oil with them but i found out the best way is to sandwhich oil with some weed... should i get a pen vape for oils? i have seen people are building powerful portable vaporizers for concentrates... i am little confused

[Hashmasta-Kut]

I came up with the original oil unit, my sister started making them in 2002 for me and my friends and now they are worldwide. I started making glass in 2010. I have an enail setup that incorporates my original unit. here are two pictures, one of a classic piece, and one of my current setup.

[ZiggyStardust]

Originally Posted by Hashmasta-Kut

I came up with the original oil unit, my sister started making them in 2002 for me and my friends and now they are worldwide. I started making glass in 2010. I have an enail setup that incorporates my original unit. here are two pictures, one of a classic piece, and one of my current setup.

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i knew your spledid work from before! i would love to get one... gotta love that nail!

sorry if i'm asking stupid questions but very few people here ever try concentrates or dabbing... but: is dabbing really vaporizing? or it is vaporizing only at controlled temps?
sorry for the noobbish stuff! i have a basic setup, titanium nail, bubbler, torch lighter. i light until it gets red that i wait till it changes color again, i dab. this is combustion right?
again, sorry but i felt this was the right moment to clear those basic doubts i've always had!

[ZiggyStardust]

Originally Posted by ZiggyStardust

i knew your spledid work from before! i would love to get one... gotta love that nail!

sorry if i'm asking stupid questions but very few people here ever try concentrates or dabbing... but: is dabbing really vaporizing? or it is vaporizing only at controlled temps?
sorry for the noobbish stuff! i have a basic setup, titanium nail, bubbler, torch lighter. i light until it gets red that i wait till it changes color again, i dab. this is combustion right?
again, sorry but i felt this was the right moment to clear those basic doubts i've always had!

"here" meaning where i live! i never have the chance to talk of this things in the real life...

[hamstring]

Originally Posted by Hashmasta-Kut

Let me relate a story about how it went when i switched from smoking all the time(bud and hash or kif), to vaporizing(oil).

Now I have worked in labor jobs for many years, over a decade at one place. Me and some friends always smoked up every break and usually before work too, so every two hours. Back when we smoked, by the next break, 2 hours later, lethargy and negativity were hard to fight, and that next toke was looked on as a very needed re-upping, which would last maybe an hour. Then a few of us switched to vaping oil, and all of a sudden, there was almost 0 lethargy, and at the end of a shift going to get high, we would usually be very upbeat, still making stoner jokes, because we were still high! ALmost 0 burnout when inhaling vapor, and smoking is complelely different. Especially certain things, i recall even abstaining at a time all we could get was import hash( late 80s), and It would make me so sleepy i could hardly handle it. I found it a great benefit vaporizing all day compared to smoking. I like the odd bit of smoke in the evening.

I like this description. Although I am not the type/frequent of a smoker I have friends who smoked exactly like this on the job. They were all roofers the tile and slate type not asphalt. Always two stories up or more. I never knew understood it sounds crazy.

There is a lot of truth to this because if you smoke (in my opinion) you get a initial burst of energy that diminishes later on to lethargy. I dont get this rush of energy when smoking vape pens.

This may be an apples to oranges comparison because I believe ( not positive) that the vape pen cartridges are always decarbed material.

I'm am also a green dragon fan and that is a different type of high than both smoking or vape pens. But again smoking gives me a initial rush of energy that I dont get from other types of ingestion .

my 2 cents

[Robney]

Different smokes for different folks


But let's be clear, in terms of cancer, no one can say vaporizing is safer and smoking, because scientists and doctors do not know the actual root cause of cancer: from www.cancer.org "No one knows the exact cause of most cases of cancer. We know that certain changes in our cells can cause cancer to start, but we don’t yet know exactly how it all happens. Scientists are studying this problem and learning more about the many steps it takes for cancers to form and grow." Sure, we can make correlations like smoking cigarettes can contribute, but you still see 90 year old smokers who never get cancer. So, until we get a lot more studies comparing vaping to smoking, don't act like you know more than the entire medical community.

And to respond to Yellowmoon, yeah I've noticed the same thing and it is one of the reasons I do not like vaporizers

[vapeorbong]

not meant for confrontation but.....it is well proven that carcinogens are strongly linked to causing cancer.
Combustion by its nature produces carcinogens as process that leaves the charred carbon ash behind

Yes, there is no single root to cause the 'cancerous' cell mutations, but carcinogens definitely are ever so strongly linked to them...like a magnet

so if properly vaping and not crossing the line of combustion,yes, vaping is proven to be safer. Tons of studies show the vaping of cannabis to be non-harmful, carcinogen free, and second only to edible ingestion in its safety of consumption


But lets not argue...lets all just take a moment and enjoy some herb in which ever manner you prefer

[Jellyfish]

Originally Posted by vapeorbong

not meant for confrontation but.....it is well proven that carcinogens are strongly linked to causing cancer.
Combustion by its nature produces carcinogens as process that leaves the charred carbon ash behind

Yes, there is no single root to cause the 'cancerous' cell mutations, but carcinogens definitely are ever so strongly linked to them...like a magnet

so if properly vaping and not crossing the line of combustion,yes, vaping is proven to be safer. Tons of studies show the vaping of cannabis to be non-harmful, carcinogen free, and second only to edible ingestion in its safety of consumption


But lets not argue...lets all just take a moment and enjoy some herb in which ever manner you prefer

Goddamnit, that is pretty passive aggressive. Vaping is NOT proven to be safer. If smoking pot causes cancer (carcinogenics) then where are all these cases of pot smokers with lung disease? Show me ONE. ONE.

[Hashmasta-Kut]

Well just to start, there are dozens of sources of vapour people inhale which are completely harmless, such as water vapor. Vapor is just pure molecules of something, before its burnt and changed into new molecules, which often are harmful after the change.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haqi4xvjvKo

https://time.com/money/4005030/vaping...tes-expensive/

Pretty sure just comparing smoke, lower temperature smoke is less harmful than hotter smoke. The hotter the smoke, the more it damages the cells it comes into contact with, more chance for the aforementioned mutation.