[dddaver]

Originally Posted by Hashmasta-Kut

nope, there has been studies proving positive thinking does no good.

Yup. Don't mean to derail or hijack the thread. but this is copy and pasted from cancer.org:

...there’s no good evidence to support the idea that these interventions can reduce the risk of cancer, keep cancer from coming back, or help the person with cancer live longer.-the interventions talked about are the positivity and group interventions

Furthermore, this: In 2010, the largest and best-designed scientific study to date was published. It looked at nearly 60,000 people, who were followed over time for a minimum of 30 years. This careful study controlled for smoking, alcohol use, and other known cancer risk factors. The study showed no link between personality and overall cancer risk. There was also no link between personality traits and cancer survival.

When you put a flame to your bowl you're both combusting AND vaporizing cannabis, as some of the material surrounding your bowl's "cherry" isn't hot enough to combust, but is hot enough to vaporize while you smoke, which contributes to why combustion is more effective.

...I also think it's worth mentioning that some vaporizers have you puffing on a higher concentration of hot, dry air for a longer time than you would even when combusting, which can be taxing on the pulmonary system as well, and there's been pretty much no studies on the effects of vaping. I've had vape sessions that have left my lungs/throat feeling just as thrashed as smoking.

[Hashmasta-Kut]

Combustion isnt more effective, its overkill. Kills many pyschoactive compounds by burning them.

[Jellyfish]

Then how come you get higher when you smoke?

[Hashmasta-Kut]

I don't agree you do.

I smoked for around 20 years, then switched to vaporizing for the last 15 or so. At first it seemed like something was missing, but we all agreed as we switched over that whats missing is a thick heavy feeling in the chest, a feeling like you actually smoked something. It takes some getting used to not being there, but how it works actually, is vaporizing gets you higher, but smoking gets you lowered, its a very different feeling. And i do smoke still occasionally, smoked a bowl of fine sift on top of GSC bud last night, and it was good, but certainly not getting me higher than vaping the extract from the bud, and stoned in a different way, less cerebral, less "high". Vaporizing is a more pure cleaner stone. Its similar to eating psilocybin, or making tea from them, making tea is like the vapor stone, eating them whole is the smoking stone.

[m314]

Originally Posted by Bud Green Sr.

I don't know anything about modern vaporizers, but with Spring just around the corner, it's time for me to get out my old steam pipe...

I guess you'd call it an old school vaporizer.. My rasta friend made it for me , in the back hills of Jamaica, back it 1981...

It's pretty much an "outdoor use only" pipe, since I have to put coals I make from coconut shells, in the tin pan that sits on the top of the bowl...

I've had to replace the bowl and the coal pan every few years, but the main body of the pipe has still not cracked or leaked in almost 35 years!..

It's fun to use, sitting around the campfire and never fails as a conversation starter with friends who have never seen or used one...

It is a "true vaporizer", and the principle behind how it works comes from the area in or around India, from many hundreds, or even a thousand years ago.

That looks so cool. I thought vaporizers were a recent breakthrough in weed technology until you posted this pic.

[m314]

There isn't definitive proof, but I think vaporizers are healthier. Smoke has carcinogens. Cannabinoids in the smoke prevent cancer and more than cancel out the damage from the carcinogens. Vaping produces no carcinogens in the first place, so it should help prevent cancer more than smoking.

I'm not worried about smoking at all. When my gf (ex gf? it's complicated) is here, we smoke. I smoke joints at concerts because they're convenient. Overall I prefer the high from vaporizing. Vaporizing comes with a bonus too. I save the vaped bud to make capsules that get me high as fuck for hours at a time. Vaping seems a lot more efficient to me in terms of the amount of high you get per gram.

[m314]

Originally Posted by Jellyfish

Then how come you get higher when you smoke?

I get higher for longer with a gram from vaping and eating the vaped bud afterwards. I don't know the exact numbers, but vaping is way more efficient for me.

[_tessarecting]

I gotta try that sometime m314, great idea

[m314]

Originally Posted by lawlrus

Can you provide some sources to back this claim up?

This is a news story about one of the earlier studies demonstrating that smoking pot doesn't cause cancer. I'd look up the study itself but I'm high at the moment. Dr. Tashkin from the study believes that the anti-cancer effects from cannabinoids cancel out the danger from the carcinogens in the smoke.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...052501729.html

The anti-cancer / anti-tumor effects of cannabinoids have been demonstrated in hundreds of studies since then. It is my hypothesis that consuming cannabinoids orally or by vaporizing will help to prevent cancer. This is unproven because it hasn't been tested yet.