[dwtc]

hey all!!!
was wondering how you get them? i know that my plants need them but don't know how to get them.

i've been reading about 2 product (SUBCULTURE, and PLANTSUCCESS),has anybody used either of these?

my nutes are the pbp line, liquid karma, calmag, and budswell.

thanks for the help.

down with the clowns

[mmartine]

forget of all that fancy stuff..what you need is to make some wormcastings and molasses tea and you are all set...........wormcastings has all the benefical bacteria your plant will need. the molasses will feed the bacteria and overpopulate your tea with them.....peace

That is the million dollar question...there are several answers. Most organic ammendments are microbially active - this means that they tag along with your organic amendments or fertilizers like guano's and meals and such. If you need an extra boots of micros a good place to start would be subculture, tarantula, and actinovate.
Plant success is a form of mycorrhizal fungi...fungus would still be considered a "micro organism" but it is different than what we are talking about.

A good quality organic soil that is ammended with both subculture and plant success will have all the 'micros' that you need to have a healthy root zone.

[dwtc]

MM: so what youre sayin is you don't use anything but that? do i use my nutrients also or is that a stand alone feeding(wormcasting and mollasis)? do i use it in growth or flower stage or both? sorry to pick ya brain thanks for the reply.

kokua: do you use teas? i've seen some of your post and must say nice grows . would you use the subcuture and plant success or the worm casting and mollasis tea?

whitch one is better(for me and the plant)? thanks for the replys people and stay safe.

down with the clowns

I use the subculture and plant success...ALL THE TIME. No exceptions. I sometimes will mix up teas, but it depends on if I have time or not. Remember, plant success really doesn't belong in this conversation, other than it lives in the rootzone too. When I make up tea's, it is because I want nutritiion, the micro's are a benefit. I don't make tea's just for the micro's. I have been changing it up, trying different organic lines and natural guano's...they all work good, some work better than others.

Mixing and brewing organic teas are a pain in the ass!! It is a never ending, shit smelling foulness that I would love to avoid if at all possilbe! I am going to work on coming up with a dry organic schedule that works for me. I would like to get where I am adding nothing but water and the occasional addative... like molasses, LK and EJ's catalyst.

I don't want to answer for anyone, but worm castings and molasses would be an excellent source of micro-goodies. Not a source of major nutrition however. Let's not confuse micro's and roles that they play, with major nutrition. They should co-exist.

If you can find subculture...I would go with that. If you cannot, a worm casting tea with molasses would be an excellent substitute.

[mmartine]

dwtc: i used to always areate my nutes and when i found out of the befenefits of wormcastings and molasis tea i always add that to my nutes...... for vegging i use gh flora nova grow with one teaspoon of worm castings and one teaspoon of molasis per gallon bubbled for 24 hours every fourth watering.......and all the other waterings are done with one tablespoon of worm castings one tablespoon of molassis one teaspoon of kelp and one teaspoon fo apple vinegar...... for flowering i use the same formula exept for the gh flora nova bloom and i dont use kelp anymore, some ppl say it stretches the plant.... i use worm castings and molasis all the way every watering....to keep bacteria thriving.and thus my plants too...... i hope this helps as it helped me.........

[Pactivist]

dwtc - if you are truly wanting to add micro-organisms to your soil, then i can't think of a better place to start than https://www.planthealthcare.com/ they have quite a selection of fungi and beneficial bacteria and are available in many locations. I have personally used their "Compete" and would recommend it to anyone who is not using mushroom compost or at least some kind of organic soil based amendment like compost tea or worm castings.
really take a look at that link, as a matter of fact anyone growing organically should check it out. you won't regret it
peAce,
pacT

[Pactivist]

Just a quick addition to my last post, I have just started using a type of pro-mix that has Mycorrizhal fungus already added to the mix, it is called Pro-Mix BX Mycorise pro. It has shown to be a more effective growing medium for my methods than the original Pro-Mix. Just to let you know - I grow completely organically using the metanaturals line, in 2gal. grow bags, w/the pro-mix i mentioned, under 1200 watts mixed HID light, 33sq. ft room with more than adequate ventilation.

[minds_I]

Hello all,

I agree witht he EWC's as a great source of microkiddies.

This is the stuff I use:

DOH!


https://www.organicsalive.org/organic..._products.html


I think it has made a a complete differenece in my growing. I make ewc/guano/molasses teas and add liquid kelp and feed every watering- they love it.

I do find giving metered amounts of water is also key. IMO

minds_I

[Verite]

I use the granulated plant success in my transplant areas for a booster and it works pretty good.