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-VT- · 08-03-2006, 08:23 AM

I'm scared to make my own cause of what Chiefsmokingbud said about the butane leaching stuff from the metal and having metal extracted....but he did mention the Stainless Steel Turkey Baster being "OK"....I don't see how I'd get a hole perfect for the butane ... Ok....look... I use butane (cheap stuff) for refilling lighters...and the "nozzle" has a lil' groove in it...it has to fit perfectly around the "nipple" of the lighter....otherwise the shit goes everywhere (and it's cold as hell and gets everywhere!) anyways I don't see how you can inject safely unless you have that hole sized just right (forgive my ignorance here) I wish someone had a DIY on the tube with some decent pics....or maybe there is one...so spending $45 sounds safer and easier

So if I purge with the Pyrex on top of boiling (Chiefsmokingbud did say it should NOT boil I thought?)...anyways that's how I do QWISO....so I do the same thing and the bubbles just pop on their own?

Anyways thx for all the posts and replies guys

Hashmasta-Kut · 08-03-2006, 04:05 PM

i think the stainless baster is very easy to set up.

Chiefsmokingbud · 08-03-2006, 05:08 PM

It's been so long since i used a baster that i can't remember the hole size of the end of it and don't remember if it has to be crimped down a bit to make the hole smaller. I do know the nozzle on butane cans is .106 in diameter (1/8" is .125). I make the injection holes on mine .108 dia and it fits every butane can i've seen.

Most my bubbles pop during purging and about 4-5 larger ones are left so i just pop with the pick.

08-03-2006, 06:26 PM

you can llways use a King Butane tip fitting if you use king and you drill too big of a hole, I just used a knife to make my holes just worked it until I could see that it was going through, Its really easy to make your own(you need McGyver skills) just dont put it togather before you leave Lowes because it looks like a pipe bo*b. I dont reccomend metal anything to do with weed, I have never used metal extractor but it doesnt sound good, think about smoking from a metal pipe, ya know what I mean?

Cheifsmokinbud- oops man I thought you were talking about individual bubble bags

Hahsmastakut- What is the difference between a lighter and a torch besides the heat levels? He's going to vapo allot of goodness with a torch, I just think it's a little excessive, if I can pop them with a regular lighter does he really need a torch?

Hashmasta-Kut · 08-03-2006, 09:07 PM

regular lighter creats soot often. torch lighters burn very clean.

jimbob420 · 08-03-2006, 09:28 PM

In my opinion bubble hash was just another step in the road to discovering the best hash....bho. Just look at the both of them under a microscope and u will really see the difference.

Hashmasta- I used to get three grams a o but that was way back when and I havent weighed anything in over a year so it might be more. Also I dry my shit to till it is flaky and not oily as you probably have already seen so I would assume it would be a bit lighter. Question-- How do u fill your tubes? My material is ground up not whole bud, and I never pack it down but a very little bit.

keefhead- I use unbleached coffee filters and you get like 500 for 4 bucks, and zip ties(I know i probly shouldnt)

Bubbleboy- yea u might get 3 to 4 grams but like u just said only half of it is in anyway comparable to bho which you can get like 3 to 6 grams of in one run. I still have a hard time believing that you can get 4 grams in total dry weight from an OZ run through the bags...I have tried many times and wasted lots of shit that could have been vaped. If you are getting those kinds of returns then you are using some frosty ass shit. I will agree that bho can be dangerous but only if you do something dumb. UTFS- USER TO FUKIN STUPID. Yea if you take a lighter to a dish of evaporating butane...it will light on fire, if you do it in a small room the rapidly expanding gasses will cause an explosion. The moral of the story is...do your extractions outside and don't throw matches or flames at the extraction dish.

edit: listen to hmk, the easiest way to get rid of the bubbles is to just put the dish in some hot water...I just use hot ass tap water sitting in the sink with the drain plugged...I just change it about 3 times then scrape everything even if there is bubbles in there into a smaller dish and keep using the hot water in the sink and more and more bubbles will rise out so just keep stiring and heating...if you want oil stop eariler that later, if you want paste then just keep doing it until it is hard stir and leave out overnight. just my 2 cents

bubbleman · 08-03-2006, 09:48 PM

well i saw the microscope and couldnt resist. I was lucky enough to have a keyene vhx 500 demo'd to me just yesterday and managed to snap a few shots. The micrscope can take better shots than these, but i was kinda doing this on the down low, ie the guy had no idea what were were photographing lol.
anyway my opinion is this, butane oil is easier to make a nice product from shitty material, but when you have the best material possible, the bags will give you just as nice a return and product. I have produced near 70% THC, using just the bags. and my confirmation on that, was from the skunkman himself.
Just my two cents.

peace
bubble man

ps, hey jimbob ya got any micrscope shots of that bho? may as well add em up.

Chiefsmokingbud · 08-04-2006, 01:33 AM

That thing must coast a boatload. Is that like basically a microscopic camera linked with fiber optic cable?

bubbleman · 08-04-2006, 01:45 AM

yeah chief, your right on both accounts, the thing is a boatload and a half, at 45k base model, you can buy all sorts of other attachments. But with a magnification of 20x to 5000x , there's not much this thing can't do.

Peace
bubble man

ps, keep in mind these photos were taken by the gentlemen from the company and he didnt realy know what he was looking for. What blew me away was the ability this unit had to completely control the background and foreground blurr factor. The unit could be handheld or stay in the base that is another 3k extra.

jimbob420 · 08-04-2006, 06:44 AM

no magnified photos here(I friggin wish I could have access to a machine like that)just looking at the stuff through a small table top microscope and am totally amazed. I completely agree that the best bubble is great stuff and is probably just as pure as bho but it is more than likely made with material that is not what the average person gets or even what the better than average smoker usually has on hand. One day we will just have to have a bho vs bubble throwdown and that way we can make sure everyone is blasted to the moon :-)

08-03-2006, 08:23 AM	#51
-VT- Voluptuous Trichomes Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: California Posts: 2,773	I'm scared to make my own cause of what Chiefsmokingbud said about the butane leaching stuff from the metal and having metal extracted....but he did mention the Stainless Steel Turkey Baster being "OK"....I don't see how I'd get a hole perfect for the butane ... Ok....look... I use butane (cheap stuff) for refilling lighters...and the "nozzle" has a lil' groove in it...it has to fit perfectly around the "nipple" of the lighter....otherwise the shit goes everywhere (and it's cold as hell and gets everywhere!) anyways I don't see how you can inject safely unless you have that hole sized just right (forgive my ignorance here) I wish someone had a DIY on the tube with some decent pics....or maybe there is one...so spending $45 sounds safer and easier So if I purge with the Pyrex on top of boiling (Chiefsmokingbud did say it should NOT boil I thought?)...anyways that's how I do QWISO....so I do the same thing and the bubbles just pop on their own? Anyways thx for all the posts and replies guys __________________ -VT-
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08-03-2006, 04:05 PM	#52
Hashmasta-Kut honey oil addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Van[:]Isle Posts: 3,699	i think the stainless baster is very easy to set up. __________________ Never Trust Somebody Who Says Never Trust A Hippie !
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08-03-2006, 05:08 PM	#53
Chiefsmokingbud Slap-A-Ho tribe Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buried in a pile of kief ;) Posts: 2,495	It's been so long since i used a baster that i can't remember the hole size of the end of it and don't remember if it has to be crimped down a bit to make the hole smaller. I do know the nozzle on butane cans is .106 in diameter (1/8" is .125). I make the injection holes on mine .108 dia and it fits every butane can i've seen. Most my bubbles pop during purging and about 4-5 larger ones are left so i just pop with the pick. __________________ The U.S. makes up 5% of the Global population and 25% of the Global prison population ~~~Big buds and MoNsTer colas~~~ Butane honey oil for dummies ............ *~~Pain free hash making made easy~~*
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08-03-2006, 06:26 PM	#54
Guest Guest Posts: n/a	you can llways use a King Butane tip fitting if you use king and you drill too big of a hole, I just used a knife to make my holes just worked it until I could see that it was going through, Its really easy to make your own(you need McGyver skills) just dont put it togather before you leave Lowes because it looks like a pipe bo*b. I dont reccomend metal anything to do with weed, I have never used metal extractor but it doesnt sound good, think about smoking from a metal pipe, ya know what I mean? Cheifsmokinbud- oops man I thought you were talking about individual bubble bags Hahsmastakut- What is the difference between a lighter and a torch besides the heat levels? He's going to vapo allot of goodness with a torch, I just think it's a little excessive, if I can pop them with a regular lighter does he really need a torch?
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08-03-2006, 09:07 PM	#55
Hashmasta-Kut honey oil addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Van[:]Isle Posts: 3,699	regular lighter creats soot often. torch lighters burn very clean. __________________ Never Trust Somebody Who Says Never Trust A Hippie !
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08-03-2006, 09:28 PM	#56
jimbob420 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 234	In my opinion bubble hash was just another step in the road to discovering the best hash....bho. Just look at the both of them under a microscope and u will really see the difference. Hashmasta- I used to get three grams a o but that was way back when and I havent weighed anything in over a year so it might be more. Also I dry my shit to till it is flaky and not oily as you probably have already seen so I would assume it would be a bit lighter. Question-- How do u fill your tubes? My material is ground up not whole bud, and I never pack it down but a very little bit. keefhead- I use unbleached coffee filters and you get like 500 for 4 bucks, and zip ties(I know i probly shouldnt) Bubbleboy- yea u might get 3 to 4 grams but like u just said only half of it is in anyway comparable to bho which you can get like 3 to 6 grams of in one run. I still have a hard time believing that you can get 4 grams in total dry weight from an OZ run through the bags...I have tried many times and wasted lots of shit that could have been vaped. If you are getting those kinds of returns then you are using some frosty ass shit. I will agree that bho can be dangerous but only if you do something dumb. UTFS- USER TO FUKIN STUPID. Yea if you take a lighter to a dish of evaporating butane...it will light on fire, if you do it in a small room the rapidly expanding gasses will cause an explosion. The moral of the story is...do your extractions outside and don't throw matches or flames at the extraction dish. edit: listen to hmk, the easiest way to get rid of the bubbles is to just put the dish in some hot water...I just use hot ass tap water sitting in the sink with the drain plugged...I just change it about 3 times then scrape everything even if there is bubbles in there into a smaller dish and keep using the hot water in the sink and more and more bubbles will rise out so just keep stiring and heating...if you want oil stop eariler that later, if you want paste then just keep doing it until it is hard stir and leave out overnight. just my 2 cents Last edited by jimbob420; 08-03-2006 at 09:36 PM..
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08-03-2006, 09:48 PM	#57
bubbleman Bubble Ambassador Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Vansterdam, BC , Canaba Posts: 809	well i saw the microscope and couldnt resist. I was lucky enough to have a keyene vhx 500 demo'd to me just yesterday and managed to snap a few shots. The micrscope can take better shots than these, but i was kinda doing this on the down low, ie the guy had no idea what were were photographing lol. anyway my opinion is this, butane oil is easier to make a nice product from shitty material, but when you have the best material possible, the bags will give you just as nice a return and product. I have produced near 70% THC, using just the bags. and my confirmation on that, was from the skunkman himself. Just my two cents. peace bubble man ps, hey jimbob ya got any micrscope shots of that bho? may as well add em up. __________________ Herb is the messenger bubble is the message
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08-04-2006, 01:33 AM	#58
Chiefsmokingbud Slap-A-Ho tribe Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buried in a pile of kief ;) Posts: 2,495	That thing must coast a boatload. Is that like basically a microscopic camera linked with fiber optic cable? __________________ The U.S. makes up 5% of the Global population and 25% of the Global prison population ~~~Big buds and MoNsTer colas~~~ Butane honey oil for dummies ............ *~~Pain free hash making made easy~~*
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08-04-2006, 01:45 AM	#59
bubbleman Bubble Ambassador Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Vansterdam, BC , Canaba Posts: 809	yeah chief, your right on both accounts, the thing is a boatload and a half, at 45k base model, you can buy all sorts of other attachments. But with a magnification of 20x to 5000x , there's not much this thing can't do. Peace bubble man ps, keep in mind these photos were taken by the gentlemen from the company and he didnt realy know what he was looking for. What blew me away was the ability this unit had to completely control the background and foreground blurr factor. The unit could be handheld or stay in the base that is another 3k extra. __________________ Herb is the messenger bubble is the message
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08-04-2006, 06:44 AM	#60
jimbob420 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 234	no magnified photos here(I friggin wish I could have access to a machine like that)just looking at the stuff through a small table top microscope and am totally amazed. I completely agree that the best bubble is great stuff and is probably just as pure as bho but it is more than likely made with material that is not what the average person gets or even what the better than average smoker usually has on hand. One day we will just have to have a bho vs bubble throwdown and that way we can make sure everyone is blasted to the moon :-)
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