[Keefhead]

OK, back to the subject, or close to it anyway.

I don't have much of any oil pictures to add, but I thought my oil rig might interest some. Basically a bottomless drawer shell, a copper pipe (now changed to pyrex) and a glass below it. Holds itself, and doesn't cost much if anything. Ghetto rigging. Until I can afford the OKief tube anyway.



Notes: It's sitting outside on a planter box. Safety first. Also, the can is just sitting on the top for the picture. Its empty, and some of the butane has begun to evaporate.

I then move the beaker to a pan of warm water. I've found a better way here on IC now, and I've got to try it, using teflon bags and a vacuum.

Do I about got it right chief?

Question..,when I make bubblehash there are some grades I don't like to smoke. Has anybody ever used grades like 120 or 160 to make BHO? Seems to me that it would produce some very clean oil. Just a notion, I don't have the hash to try it, but it just seemed like such a good idea.

[Chiefsmokingbud]

That'll work keef, nice ingenuity. I have yet to try the bags but in theory it makes sense and foaf's pics prove it. I do believe you don't have to absolutely use a vacuum to purge it but it is a nice touch. I agree about the 120 and 160 but for it to work in butane extraction it would have to be an absolute powder and it would also be best to layer it in the leaf material.

[-VT-]

Nice thread Chiefsmokingbud

I love smoking BHO....the tools (and the process) looks expensive.....bubble bags seem easier and cheaper (to me a novice...I know absolutely NOTHING outside of making QWISO)...but when I get more advanced and more $$...I think I'll give this a shot....

And refer back to this someday...hopefully

Again...thanks for all the hard work as this tutorial is extremely informative....and factual....

I wish I had some BHO right now Seeing as how dispensaries (in my area in Cali) charge $80 and up per gram (more than they charge for bubble...cause it's better )...may be a while before I have any again The shit is better than bubble (and I love bubble)....IMO....good BHO is something special

Peace

-VT-

[Keefhead]

-VT- I just had to jump in here. Chief and others, correct me where I erred.

BHO is really cheap to make. See my picture up above, but substitute a stainless turkey baster for the copper tube (very bad) and clamp it in place somehow. I used glass, but I broke two of them. It's the bags that are expensive. Many hundreds. Turkey baster and thermal glove $20. That, a pyrex dish, and a razor blade and you're ready. Oh, a hose clamp, a piece of fine screen, and a wad of cotton, for the end of the tube where the bulb was. Heck, I think QWISO is harder, but that's just me. I like my BHO.

I like bubble too, but it's a lot more expensive, and for some of us (arthritis) bubble is more difficult. Holding the bags when we lift them, etc. But I still make bubble too. I like it, and it has its place. In fact, my favorite hit is to FILL a bowl with good bubble, then put a piece of good hard BHO on top of it, and take it all down. Hits ya like a diesel train. And with good stuff, hardly a cough. Well, a little maybe. Awright, a lot sometimes.

Yeah Chief, I just wish I could buy just two of those teflon bags, and not 10 like they come in. But I gotta try it. I got a buddy who did it with a bag he got from the hospital, and it worked really well. He even borrowed a big glass jar (there's a fancy name for it - I forget) and we vacuum purged it with my veneer pump. It never got rock hard, but it was a nice solid piece after we crushed it and warmed it to melt it together. I'm now shopping for the parts to rig something together.

Question Chief. You suggested layering the hash with leaf material. Not questioning your way, but what is the reason for that? Better flow? Just wondering. And might I also use something like screens or something else? Man! Always the hacker, always trying to find a better way. Somebody kick me.

you can buy bags individually on one of the ice hash sites not sure if its Bmans or some other place, saw them a few months ago. look for "replacement" bags

[-VT-]

Thx Keefhead

I think I may order that O'Kief tube....

I suppose I'd get the "extractor 1"...

Looks like the "extractor 2"...is just two "extractor 1's" mounted together...but one would still have to inject the butane into each...correct? If that's the case I don't see the advantage of the extractor 2....heck it's only $45 usd (extractor 1)....and with accesories and shipping under $75....anyways the "extractor 1" can purportedly handle 22g of plant material ..........so that would work for me

So once I order the tube(s), metal screens, all I need is a pyrex dish...correct? (I'll do the "scrape" method.....)

The bubblebag kits cost way more...was gonna get the 3 bag bubble kit but so many advised that I get the 7 bag.....that's too much $$ right now

Chiefsmokingbud:

How do you "pop" the bubbles? Dumb question...but just take a pin and pop em all one by one? That looks to be the most tedious step in the "scrape method" process

I see they give medical discounts at the O'Kief site also....I'm wondering how I'd prove this..and protect my identity...kinda sketchy on that...I'll pass on the 15% discount (although that is cool they offer that)

Peace

-VT-

[Chiefsmokingbud]

Keefhead if you dump a bunch of powder in there at once it will pack down. Keep in mind in the 120 and 160 there is probably a good amount of stalks too. Stalks donot disolve bt tane. In fact after i do a run and get ready to empty the tube, i can remove the screen, look inside and see a considerable amount of powder resembling kief. Under magnification it is nothing but stalks.
VT- the reason for more than one tube on a rig is so you can do more material at once instead of stopping halfway through a run and having to load another tube. Just a little less time involved.
A pyrex dish and rasor blades you would need. Another good piece of equipment to have is a dental pick which can be used to handle a the oil and to pop the bubbles. I've never found popping bubbles to be tedious and you can use a pin, paperclip, etc. You can also use a paint scraper for the scrape JYI.
Dank1, one thing i don't understand is why a replacement bag is $50, multiply that by 7 and it doesn't add up -Chief

yea but it saves about a hundered and twenty dollars if you only buy two.

Why are you going to pay 45usd for an extractor you can make your own for 10. all you have to do is go to lowes go to the fitting section and find a pipe itting that has two ends both with threads, then mix and match some end caps, drill(or use a knife) a hole into the top to put your butane in, and three to five holes on the bottom, use masking tape to lock the threads so there is no leaks, put your "product" in and start spraying the butane into the extractor, hold it over the pyrex pan and catch the butane/hash oil mixture, let the butane evapotate and scrape off the tar, there are other ways to do it to get hard oil but this is the easiest for a BHO beginner. Be safe and remember NO SMOKING WHILE EXTRACTING.

I also meant to say that the easiest way I've found to pop the bubbles is with my lighter after all the liquid butane has evaporated, and after you scrape the goo you will notice what looks like water it is, get a napkin and touch it to the water and the surface tension will pull it off the hash and into the napkin.

[Keefhead]

Good point Chief. I just don't like the idea of putting pot in the tube where just clean hash is, but I guess its the best way. Maybe just mix the hash with the pot?

Dank1 - I get the feeling were talking about two different bags here - the bubblebags and the teflon bags for BHO. The teflon bags are 10 for $28.00. I guess I'll be ordering some, though I only need 1-2.

Also, although you could make oil that way, you'll get a better, and healthier, oil if you use glass or stainless. Galvanized and copper are known to be harmful.

Also, my experience is that using a lighter to pop the bubbles darkens the oil. Comments Chief? I use a pin - it's kinda fun. Pop, pop, pop.

I thought I'd post a couple of pictures. The first one is simply of my "hash" desk. I'm looking at some "dark" oil. The desk is not normally this cluttered.



The next one is of some of my oil. It was lit from the back, shot through the microscope, and in it you can see some contaminants that got in there through the filter. Oops.



That having been posted, it's time for a bowl of bubblehash with a bit of BHO on top of it. Yummmm

[Hashmasta-Kut]

dont use a lighter, just lightly raze the bubbles with a butane torch flame on low, if you dont cover the dish and purge on the stove double boiler style like i do,where all the bubbles just pop anyway after a few minutes.