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Hashmasta-Kut · 08-22-2006, 04:22 PM

85 wow. a lab? he can find the other 15 percent or what?

Chiefsmokingbud · 08-22-2006, 04:44 PM

I'm hoping he can. Labwork is way over my head and i'm not sure how they break the results down. If he didn't get a real detailed breakdown, i'll ask if he can get them to break down the percent of unknown. Just like the bubble that was tested, what could possibly be the remaining 45-50%. I suspect nothing more than contams.

Personally i would like to put the butane debate to rest once and for all. Good or bad results.

gaiusmarius · 08-22-2006, 06:57 PM

wow that would be so valuable info? both for bho and for bubble.

Keefhead · 08-22-2006, 07:43 PM

Chief, that is great. Maybe we can finally see some real numbers. I'll bet he can search for butane as well. That would be interesting to check out the BHO for misc contaminants.

Ooohh, I'd like to see the info on a few different strains. Or a sativa and an indica. Man, I could really get carried away with something like that. Here's hoping he can give you what you ask for.

Well, that puddle of oil in the last picture above was left in the dish overnight, sitting on a heating pad. I wish I had taken a picture of the puddle sitting there, flat, and little bubble spots where it had been purged. I scrapped it up into a little pile, and took these pictures.

I can't wait till tonight when I get to smoke some of it.

Chiefsmokingbud · 08-22-2006, 07:54 PM

Damn dude now that's nice!

Keefhead · 08-22-2006, 08:31 PM

Thanks Chief. That means something to me coming from you.

Here's a closeup of the same material. I'm not sure what I see here, but it looks good. No impurities that I can see.

I gotta admit, though, I cheated a wee bit. Well, not cheated exactly. I got a friend, a doctorate from stanford in microbiology, a professor, and I told him what I was doing. He told me to stuff a cotton ball next to the screen, then put the material in from the top. He said it purifies the liquid, and absorbes very little of the butane. The relatively pure butane at the end will push it through. He says.... So I tried it. Is this a known technique from you folks here? I would think so, it seems to make a lot of sense.

As soon as I get back from all my docs appts, I will be running some more. I got a whole gallon bag to run here......

jimbob420 · 08-22-2006, 08:46 PM

that is exactly what my bho looks like when i am done with it...How could that possibly be less pure than bubble? Bubbleheads are out of their minds, I use unbleached coffee filters on the end of the tube, probly serves the same purpose as cotton balls but less little cotton bits stuck to your tube.

Chiefsmokingbud · 08-23-2006, 12:58 AM

Not sure keefhead never tried it. keep in mind the screen hole openings is 120 micron so that's pretty fine to begin with. That is interesting though.

poolratt · 08-23-2006, 01:00 AM

I agree Jimbob,It seems Bubbleheads are taking over this Forum.We all now good BHO is more potent than the best Bubble but they like to think there purist becuase they use no solvent for extraction.Give me BHO any day.I would think the cotton ball would soak up some resin also, not good!

gaiusmarius · 08-23-2006, 02:16 AM

no the cotton ball will not soak up resin. because the end of the butane can will blow through blasting every last bit of thc carrying butane into the dish. that's the theory and it sounds logical, as long as you use enough butane there will be nothing active left in the material in the tube.

by the way, i don't think bubble fans are saying that its purer then bho. what they say, which is true that it's more natural. the trichomes are collected whole. in bho you are not just collecting the trichomes you are concentrating them into oil. so there is no way bubble can be as pure as well made bho. to me its not a real comparison. the one product is hashish and the other is oil. i mean i could make bho with a bunch of bubble and i'd automatically get stronger product then i put in.

to me they are two different products each has it's own advantages and disadvantages. i find well made bubble much tastier then bho, but the effect per 100th of a gram is stronger with bho then with bubble, if only it didn't lose so much taste in the making. but i've had some fun with this bho that's for sure. but i sure won't stop making bubble lol. it would be way to expensive to turn all my trim into bho, LoL.

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Hashmasta-Kut honey oil addict Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Van[:]Isle Posts: 3,699	85 wow. a lab? he can find the other 15 percent or what? __________________ Never Trust Somebody Who Says Never Trust A Hippie !
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08-22-2006, 04:44 PM	#142
Chiefsmokingbud Slap-A-Ho tribe Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buried in a pile of kief ;) Posts: 2,495	I'm hoping he can. Labwork is way over my head and i'm not sure how they break the results down. If he didn't get a real detailed breakdown, i'll ask if he can get them to break down the percent of unknown. Just like the bubble that was tested, what could possibly be the remaining 45-50%. I suspect nothing more than contams. Personally i would like to put the butane debate to rest once and for all. Good or bad results. __________________ The U.S. makes up 5% of the Global population and 25% of the Global prison population ~~~Big buds and MoNsTer colas~~~ Butane honey oil for dummies ............ *~~Pain free hash making made easy~~* Last edited by Chiefsmokingbud; 08-22-2006 at 06:53 PM..
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08-22-2006, 06:57 PM	#143
gaiusmarius Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,618	wow that would be so valuable info? both for bho and for bubble. __________________ Making BubbleHash with Bubbleator Searching for SourPoison, AfghanDieselHaze and CheeseHaze keeper making canna butter
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08-22-2006, 07:43 PM	#144
Keefhead Hash Engineer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sillycone Valley Posts: 692	Chief, that is great. Maybe we can finally see some real numbers. I'll bet he can search for butane as well. That would be interesting to check out the BHO for misc contaminants. Ooohh, I'd like to see the info on a few different strains. Or a sativa and an indica. Man, I could really get carried away with something like that. Here's hoping he can give you what you ask for. Well, that puddle of oil in the last picture above was left in the dish overnight, sitting on a heating pad. I wish I had taken a picture of the puddle sitting there, flat, and little bubble spots where it had been purged. I scrapped it up into a little pile, and took these pictures. I can't wait till tonight when I get to smoke some of it. __________________ Keefhead Who says medical patients shouldn't ENJOY their medicine?
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08-22-2006, 07:54 PM	#145
Chiefsmokingbud Slap-A-Ho tribe Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buried in a pile of kief ;) Posts: 2,495	Damn dude now that's nice! __________________ The U.S. makes up 5% of the Global population and 25% of the Global prison population ~~~Big buds and MoNsTer colas~~~ Butane honey oil for dummies ............ *~~Pain free hash making made easy~~*
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08-22-2006, 08:31 PM	#146
Keefhead Hash Engineer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sillycone Valley Posts: 692	Thanks Chief. That means something to me coming from you. Here's a closeup of the same material. I'm not sure what I see here, but it looks good. No impurities that I can see. I gotta admit, though, I cheated a wee bit. Well, not cheated exactly. I got a friend, a doctorate from stanford in microbiology, a professor, and I told him what I was doing. He told me to stuff a cotton ball next to the screen, then put the material in from the top. He said it purifies the liquid, and absorbes very little of the butane. The relatively pure butane at the end will push it through. He says.... So I tried it. Is this a known technique from you folks here? I would think so, it seems to make a lot of sense. As soon as I get back from all my docs appts, I will be running some more. I got a whole gallon bag to run here...... __________________ Keefhead Who says medical patients shouldn't ENJOY their medicine?
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08-22-2006, 08:46 PM	#147
jimbob420 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 234	that is exactly what my bho looks like when i am done with it...How could that possibly be less pure than bubble? Bubbleheads are out of their minds, I use unbleached coffee filters on the end of the tube, probly serves the same purpose as cotton balls but less little cotton bits stuck to your tube.
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08-23-2006, 12:58 AM	#148
Chiefsmokingbud Slap-A-Ho tribe Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buried in a pile of kief ;) Posts: 2,495	Not sure keefhead never tried it. keep in mind the screen hole openings is 120 micron so that's pretty fine to begin with. That is interesting though. __________________ The U.S. makes up 5% of the Global population and 25% of the Global prison population ~~~Big buds and MoNsTer colas~~~ Butane honey oil for dummies ............ *~~Pain free hash making made easy~~*
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08-23-2006, 01:00 AM	#149
poolratt Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sooner Territory Posts: 47	I agree Jimbob,It seems Bubbleheads are taking over this Forum.We all now good BHO is more potent than the best Bubble but they like to think there purist becuase they use no solvent for extraction.Give me BHO any day.I would think the cotton ball would soak up some resin also, not good! __________________ The Ocean Is A Desert With It's Life Underground And The Perfect Disguise Above.
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08-23-2006, 02:16 AM	#150
gaiusmarius Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,618	no the cotton ball will not soak up resin. because the end of the butane can will blow through blasting every last bit of thc carrying butane into the dish. that's the theory and it sounds logical, as long as you use enough butane there will be nothing active left in the material in the tube. by the way, i don't think bubble fans are saying that its purer then bho. what they say, which is true that it's more natural. the trichomes are collected whole. in bho you are not just collecting the trichomes you are concentrating them into oil. so there is no way bubble can be as pure as well made bho. to me its not a real comparison. the one product is hashish and the other is oil. i mean i could make bho with a bunch of bubble and i'd automatically get stronger product then i put in. to me they are two different products each has it's own advantages and disadvantages. i find well made bubble much tastier then bho, but the effect per 100th of a gram is stronger with bho then with bubble, if only it didn't lose so much taste in the making. but i've had some fun with this bho that's for sure. but i sure won't stop making bubble lol. it would be way to expensive to turn all my trim into bho, LoL. __________________ Making BubbleHash with Bubbleator Searching for SourPoison, AfghanDieselHaze and CheeseHaze keeper making canna butter
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