[geneva_sativa]

Hey thanks for that info PDX !

I remember it really stood out among what I had picked up, and with the numbers it was claimed to get, I was surprised I hadnt heard more about it later.

Didnt realize that one was also from Ringo. . . .guess its why hadnt heard more about it

[orechron]

How much additional law enforcement can 1.5 million fund?

https://registerguard.com/rg/news/loc...ncies.html.csp

[PDX Dopesmoker]

Originally Posted by socioecologist

The bill passed last week, on the governor's desk for signing. Hemp seed is still regulated by ODA and will not be available as described above. One of the elements in the bill makes clear that home growers can grow hemp as part of their 4 plant allotment. In theory, a registered seed producer could get a hemp endorsement from OLCC and then sell directly to retailers, so there is a path for seed if someone wanted to pursue it. It's definitely not something we'll be doing.

Do you know your competitors' seed well enough to help us suss out which ones to try if they start selling 10 packs in weed stores? I'm really kind of itching to try out some high CBD hemp seed.

[Robrites]

The relative stability in the national supply mix over the course of 2017 is evident in the chart above, which displays national average deal sizes by grow type and month. Only a handful of dramatic fluctuations were observed, the most obvious being the spike in the average volume of transactions involving outdoor-grown product in October and November, the prime fall harvest months. The average size of trades for such flower documented in those months surpass any monthly average deal size for the same grow type recorded in 2016, and by a significant measure, again suggesting that outdoor crops were in many cases larger in 2017 than in the year prior.

[SoulAnnoyed]

Originally Posted by PDX Dopesmoker

To be fair to the weed store stuff, it has to go through a lot more handling before it gets to your bowl than the homegrown does. I saw more than once nice stuff mishandled to it's detriment by people who had nothing to do with the grow. Of course you're still correct about homegrown material being just as good if not better, everyone has access to the same info and materials for growing with and anyone who puts their head to it can grow good stuff if the put in the hours, I just wanted to point out that not all of the negative characteristics of weed store material are the responsibility of the producer.

Lame excuse. Hear it all the time. I treat my buds like shit. They dont suck? If the reasons dispo bud tastes like dryer sheets, fish guts and Sweet Citrus® is because of bad handling, I've got some OG growing in my driveway cracks that I'll let go cheap, due to bad handling.

[Robrites]

Originally Posted by Robrites

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The relative stability in the national supply mix over the course of 2017 is evident in the chart above, which displays national average deal sizes by grow type and month. Only a handful of dramatic fluctuations were observed, the most obvious being the spike in the average volume of transactions involving outdoor-grown product in October and November, the prime fall harvest months. The average size of trades for such flower documented in those months surpass any monthly average deal size for the same grow type recorded in 2016, and by a significant measure, again suggesting that outdoor crops were in many cases larger in 2017 than in the year prior.

Originally Posted by SoulAnnoyed

Lame excuse. Hear it all the time. I treat my buds like shit. They dont suck? If the reasons dispo bud tastes like dryer sheets, fish guts and Sweet Citrus® is because of bad handling, I've got some OG growing in my driveway cracks that I'll let go cheap, due to bad handling.

I'm thinkin' THIS Guy didn't get his 59lb's last year...

[OregonBorn]

Originally Posted by PDX Dopesmoker

That sounds like interesting news, thanks for filling me in. Seems like that might be bad for all the rec growers who are currently supplying the shops with high CBD material, but otherwise pretty positive.

I dunno who supplies rec shops with CBD any more. I went all around PDX looking for pure CBD hemp bud or pure CBD oil. NO ONE had any of that stuff. They all said that they used to have it. No longer after they flipped to rec from med. They all had 50/50 THC/CBD strains like Harlequin and AC/DC. One shop had some CBD oil that was insanely priced. It was hemp oil, but did not have any CBD listed in it. I gave up looking and ordered some through an outfit in Colorado. Pure CBD crystals. Tested at 99% pure CBD. It was like $20 shipped.

It looks like Oregon law has changed to making hemp an ag product. Seeds and all. As it should be. Dunno what the FEDs and Sessions will say about it. Its still Cannabis.

[PDX Dopesmoker]

Originally Posted by SoulAnnoyed

Lame excuse. Hear it all the time. I treat my buds like shit. They dont suck? If the reasons dispo bud tastes like dryer sheets, fish guts and Sweet Citrus® is because of bad handling, I've got some OG growing in my driveway cracks that I'll let go cheap, due to bad handling.

Why do treat you buds like shit? Do you have some anger at female reproductive organs? Is it the red hairs you find off-putting? My mother was a redhead so they kind of bother me a little bit.

[OregonBorn]

Originally Posted by PDX Dopesmoker

I'm in the middle of judging a bunch of rec CBD bud samples for a weed contest and some of it is real A+ stuff, all-around excellent on all levels, ahuge leap forward from the days when Harle-tsu was queen of the CBD world and that wasn't all that long ago. So I kinda feel bad for those folks if they're all about to lose out to mass produced industrial products.

Those strains are all higher in THC than 0.3%. So they are classified as Marijuana, not hemp. They will still have to be sold in rec shops or med stores. Only pure CBD hemp will be allowed as hemp for sale as ag products in Oregon. Seed, oil, fiber, buds, CBD, etc. But not anything with THC. If as stated in some posts here that the ODA classifies hemp seed as restricted or needing a license to grow (I have no details on this, and when I asked, they said it was going to be worked out) then there will be a separate hemp growing process, and a Mj growing process. At the commercial level anyway.

[OregonBorn]

Originally Posted by immaculate

@OregonBorn: I was under the impression that an "industrial hemp" growers license was available already to apply for. In the 1400 dollar range, and only takes a few weeks to process. I understand that the recreational cannabis growers license costs something like 5400 dollars and takes months to process. Can you confirm this? With the hemp license I am told you can grow specific strains that are bred to have less than the legally-defined THC amount, yet are high in CBD content. Is this true? Thanks.

I called and asked, and the ODA said that they are ironing out the regulations for the new law regarding hemp growing and commercial product selling. They referred me to their web site for details. From the ODA web site:

https://www.oregon.gov/oda/programs/...ages/hemp.aspx

The Oregon Department of Agriculture (ODA) is now accepting applications for the 2018 annual registration to grow and handle industrial hemp. A registration is needed for growing or handling industrial hemp. An additional registration is needed for those wishing to produce or handle agricultural hemp seed.

• Grower registration fee: $1,300
• Handler registration fee: $1,300
• Agricultural hemp seed production registration fee:​​​​​​ $120
  • The agricultural hemp seed production registration must accompany either a grower or handler registration.

​Public hearing on proposed rules affecting industrial hemp regulations:


March 21, 2018 at 9:00 am
Oregon Department of Agriculture
635 Capitol St NE, Salem, OR 97301


FYI: Not all hemp is high in CBD. Some hemp strains are high in CBD (over 20% by final bud weight). All hemp has ~only~ CBD and less than 0.3% THC by federal law. I have been trying to find some high CBD hemp seeds lately in small numbers (about 20 or so). Hemp seeds are usually sold in large quantity though. Like by the ounce or pound, and most are low CBD strains grown for fiber and seed oil.

As for OLCC Mj Oregon grow licenses, the annual grow license fees vary by size. There are 4 grow tiers, and you can have a mix of indoor and outdoor square footage with any one license. Grow license fees include Metrc system fees, but not plant ID/inventory tags. The 4 tiers and annual fees are (SF is square feet):

$1,000 Micro tier 1: 625 SF indoor, 2500 SF outdoor
$2,000 Micro tier 2: 1250 SF indoor, 5000 SF outdoor
$3,750 Std. Tier 1: 5000 SF indoor, 10000 SF outdoor
$5,750 Std. Tier 2: 10000 SF indoor, 40000 SF outdoor

There is also a new OLCC medical canopy license fee of $500 which allows any of the above licensees to grow medical marijuana for registered OMMP cardholders at the same location as their grow license.
And there is also an OLCC hemp certificate for $500 (plus a $250 application fee) on the OLCC site which allows any of the above licensees to deliver industrial hemp products to an licensed OLCC marijuana processor that also has an OLCC hemp certificate, BUT NOT TO A LICENSED OLCC MARIJUANA RETAILER.

So the above may be the reason that you cannot buy hemp weed in any retail stores these days in Oregon. It seems that it is restricted.

For comparison, an acre is 43,560 SF. License application times generally are held up for other reasons like zoning, building permits required by counties, and inspections. You also have to have a security system, a perimeter wall or fence, a camera surveillance system, Metrc training, an armed security response system, a secure area for storing harvested weed that is being tested, approved bags and labels, approved vehicles for transport, a background check, proof of inventor capital, a marijuana handling card for all employees, OSHA approved facilities, Oregon state employee systems in place for payroll taxes, deductions, and insurance, etc etc etc etc.

As an aside, I got a letter from my auto insurance company about a month ago that my insurance does not cover vehicles used for transporting commercial marijuana in the state of Oregon. Go figure.