[habeeb]

thanks for the info guys, but does anyone have actual numbers?

yes I'm a closet grower, no I've never done "illegal" huge operations as that's not me..

I know quite a bit as I've been reading for ten years and been growing near that.. I just can't manage it all on my own scaling to an operation that big but I have plans for automating the grows as the best I can ( bluelab controllers ) and massive plumbing systems, coupled with electronics as far as I can go with automation..

I am going to start conversations with a consultant soon but wanted some ballpark figures before getting in talks with anyone firstly paying them, and second if there is no point then I move on to something else..

if anyone knows me, I grow something different, and I find the market would like a difference then some OG... that gives me about 8 strains, but also plan for CBD room / and sativa room


I don't want to talk logistics yet, I want to talk numbers... is it feasible? what is everyone else doing? whats the rate or return? what happens when market gets saturated and things slow down? who's up and running and still going while who has shut down and why?

I plan to bring tot he table some game changers in the form of the cheapest elecrical rates possible, automation, massive layout first and foremost for expansion and the unseen to transfer over, super clean and super efficient rooms where I know time is wasted and how in growing.. I've done hand water to mixing all sorts to outdoor to hydro and every near setup imaginable I've done and I know the shortcuts and how to design the building for max efficiency.. the biggest things I don't know yet is PM prevention and pests, but I have never had pest problems outside of gnats as I don't intend to use clones and never have and never will.. all moms will be done from seed...

this isn't some shamble put together system I'm thinking, as it's super controlled hvac with superior filtration, dosers and controllers, hell every week with an automated system, the only maintenance is pruning / staking / raising lights until chop. and I'm sure some pest control bi-weekly in biological form.

as said I'm more interested in numbers at this point if I should proceed on..

I would love to talk anything growing, but would like to know some numbers first and foremost if there should be future talk.. I'm all ears

as someone mentioned, I would pay very well, as it's not all about profit to me, but I need to re-coup investment first and foremost as that much money missing makes people unsettled.. someone mentioned security, I plan on at least a 20 camera system with in my mind, steel doors a few other gizmos to cover theft and the bad employee with tracking and gps things ( once again in my mind ), some barbed wire, dogs, flood lights, and all sorts going through my head... also speakers in the grow rooms for the enjoyment, hahaha

[Weird]

If I were in your shoes I would be looking ate the following variables

I would put a chunk of money down on property in a location where the values are on the rise in a market that has a growing established legal pot market, this reduces your liability overall and gives investors tangible assets that won't depreciate.

With this model you can make your break even point taxes and operating expenses and then you can scale from there, breaking even or even showing a small profit initially as you develop a market and your product offerings.

Warehouse under million with adequate services, buy it outright. Put aside 1 year op expenses and start with 24 - 36 lights while you establish market share and grow your own capacities. Don't blow all the money unless you have a concrete business plan and the support to execute it correctly. You can complete big goals in small steps and keeping the scope of what your doing within a manageable grasp is essential.


Don't bite off more than you can chew, if you even have marginal success you lay groundwork for being a worthy person to invest in. Fuck it up and you won't be.

[habeeb]

^ thanks

well I got in contact with some consultants.. we'll see what they say, apparently someone who is not named yet but is a guru in the field of all things marijuana so I'll see who this ends up being.. I wouldn't think it would be Jorge but who knows??? my minds is blown to think what pot rockstar has opened up a consultant company?????

[oceangrownkush]

25 light in CA around 40k a cycle in recurring costs. Id say CA is fertile ground to get your start, legal enough anyways. Permits rolling out in 2018.

[Weird]

Originally Posted by oceangrownkush

25 light in CA around 40k a cycle in recurring costs. Id say CA is fertile ground to get your start, legal enough anyways. Permits rolling out in 2018.

does that include lease ?

[LittCalifornia]

Hi. I can help you. We just did 2 facilities and I had 5 dispensaries. I also helped to open about 15. Hit me at littcalifornia@gmail.com

[habeeb]

well I'll let you guys know what I find out.. sounds like a phone call ,then possibly a fly to layout a plan..

kinda feel silly as he was telling me about clients that did 40 million for 4 facilities .......... some of these guys don't play around

[MisterBlah]

Originally Posted by habeeb

well I'll let you guys know what I find out.. sounds like a phone call ,then possibly a fly to layout a plan..

kinda feel silly as he was telling me about clients that did 40 million for 4 facilities .......... some of these guys don't play around

Yeah, the largest facilities that I know of in Denver right now are over 250k square feet, 5000 lights. Their HVAC build out was 2000 tons of water chillers. $4 million+ HVAC build out cost.

[mack 10]

^^pretty baller.
Been waiting for someone to go Willi Wonka on the weed scene
And start a massive super grow. Got to be a load of stoner millionaires
Out there?

In fact if someones got a spare half billion, I'm down.

[MisterBlah]

Originally Posted by mack 10

^^pretty baller.
Been waiting for someone to go Willi Wonka on the weed scene
And start a massive super grow. Got to be a load of stoner millionaires
Out there?

In fact if someones got a spare half billion, I'm down.

There's a number of super facilities under construction in Colorado. There's going to be a crash in the prices sometimes in 2016 and only the cheapest producers will stay in the business of cultivation. I expect a lot of businesses to be sold or go out of business.

I also know of a general contractor that just bought over 300 acres to build out greenhouses and rent them out.