[Buddyy]

Originally Posted by Snook

so youre playin the 'natural' card. global warming too. TEHO. some day I hope to be as good as you are now, buddy.

no I'm not playing any card. I just said cloning is natural. You said it wasn't natural. That's all there is to it.

[Buddyy]

Originally Posted by John LOQUE

Why marocan kief finish at the end of august ? Why it is short and make only one bud besides it's a sativa strain ? Why is there more males than females ? Because it grows in a poor soil, stressed by eating only phosphats and no Nitrogen, since they only bring phosphats to the soil and they have been growing kief for 200 years on the same parcels always.
So my theory is that stressed plants finish earlier than happy plants. And personally when i grow in soil they are not happy with me, i switch between overwatering and underfed, so i stick to hydro, DWC, and chelated nutes as BIO NOVA, and as soon as i get a decent camera i show you my ladies.

John, Have you been to Morocco?

In Morocco there are now many different strains of cannabis. People have brought seeds over from around the world.
https://geopium.org/?p=655...

btw they use fertilisers with nitrogen

I see lots of folks conflate organic soil growing with ecological friendliness, which is often the exact opposite of the case. If someone is able to use 100% recycled soil and/or source completely local, vegan amendments than that absolutely terrific environmentally and ecologically. However, plenty of folks using/starting with amendments made from ground up fish, animal bones, kelps, or exotic guanos will also regularly talk as if they're growing with the earth in mind, while using some of the most ecologically harmful nutrients available.

The idea that farming, feeding and growing fish & cattle for grinding up into powder to feed the microbes in your soil is remarkably more natural and/or less harmful for the earth than digging minerals out of the ground is something that sounds ridiculous when you think about it for a second, but something you hear suggested all the time on weed boards. Ditto for exotic bat/bird shit harvested and shipped half way around the world, in a manner which is extremely harmful for the bats/birds in question.

None of which is a dig at anybody in particular in this thread, since y'all could be using completely recycled locally sourced soil for all I know. Plenty of folks do these days, and it makes a ton of sense if your garden/space will allow it...but you'll also still hear lots of folks ripping synthetic/mineral nutes for ecological reasons with a garden full of guanos and ground up fish heads and horse bones, which is ridiculous and hypocritical.

It also seems worth noting that the typical/hypothetical persons most likely to condemn mineral nutrients for plants based on ecological/natural reasons are also the most likely to recommend mineral nutritional supplements for people.

[John LOQUE]

Originally Posted by Buddyy

John, Have you been to Morocco?

In Morocco there are now many different strains of cannabis. People have brought seeds over from around the world.
https://geopium.org/?p=655...

btw they use fertilisers with nitrogen

Yes, many times, several locations in the riff, i even made my own hash buying kief and working it, and what i saw is what i told you. Now, i know, some farmers buy seeds from other contries, like afghan or pakistan, but from what i smoked, i prefer the old one.

[Snook]

Originally Posted by Buddyy

no I'm not playing any card. I just said cloning is natural. You said it wasn't natural. That's all there is to it.

So where and how does mother nature do her 'natural' cloning?

[RockinRobot]

Originally Posted by Snook

So where and how does mother nature do her 'natural' cloning?

Best example of cloning in nature is Strawberry plants. Any place a runner touches dirt forms new roots and a new plant. Cannabis can do the same thing in nature.

[Buddyy]

Originally Posted by Snook

So where and how does mother nature do her 'natural' cloning?

you are funny. Of course most cannabis plants can't clone themselves unless a branch would break off and stick into the ground the right way up and would then root itself...which I'm sure has happened, but this is beside the point. And as RockinRobot has stated other plants reproduce by cloning themselves.

Just because a person helps the process by cutting the branch off and putting it somewhere so it can grow roots doesn't mean it's not NATURAL. Get it? Cloning is a natural process which people have been doing for thousands of years....I mean you just cut of a branch and it roots itself.....there are no foreign influences, no artificial process, nothing just a branch of a plant growing roots.... it is a 100% natural thing

[Snook]

my thoughts were cloning to preserve genetics. we could discuss global warming to the same end. perspective.

strawberries.

[Ganoderma]

Cloning is a horticulture practice in the main stream farming operations (large scale). I don't know how long man has been cloning plants for. The reason all of those apples taste the same at the grocery store is because all the trees are cuttings from one "mother tree" or they where grafted. I figure some one first observed some plant sending out runners and the runners rooting, or some one had flowers or cuts of some plant in a glass on the window sill and noticed that they rooted. Monkey see monkey do. I have seen cuttings from some plants root in a glass of water on a window sill.

[Ganoderma]

Originally Posted by PetFlora

BUDDY, this is a HYDRO thread

Originally Posted by PetFlora

and while the occasional misguided organic soil tastes better view is expected

This is a topic for another forum or thread, maybe some one could do a side by side in the side by side grow experiments forum https://www.icmag.com/ic/forumdisplay.php?f=65707 since this is a thread is in the Hydro forum.

Originally Posted by PetFlora

BUDDY, this is a HYDRO thread