[PetFlora]

Well, sort of. I have grown with most hydro from drip, LPA, HPA, DWC, SWC, and F & D, which provides the most control for minimal effort. It is also the easiest to make a correction with; simply disconnect the tubing (I have shut off valves) dump the nutes, flush the plant if needed, make fresh nutes and you're back on track

The old argument that organic tastes better is laughable. Differences could be easily be reduced to whose organic nutrients, v whose inorganic nutrients as well as beginning with pure water to mix nutes. I start with ~ 2ppm RO water, but take it to the next level re-energizing it via vortexing, structuring, and magnetizing. These make the water more available to the nutrients and therefor the root system which feeds the plants

Another great benefit of Hydro is growth, which is typically 2-4Xs greater. This is confirmed by many Greenhouse Seed YT videos.

I'll be posting more later

Here's a super simple DIY I developed and tweaked for a couple years now. It is easily expandable

I start seedlings and clones in a DIY Bubbler, which is easily modified to grow the less choice plants. The best go into my DIY Mini-Me F & D.

[stoned-trout]

sorry to say it but I grew hydro for years all diff kinds and nutes ..when I switched to organic my product got better...theres more in play than just nutrients..all kinds of microbes and such and living soil....yeehaw..to each their own I don't try and convert anyone..that said,,, hydro gave me faster growth and higher yield without question

[PetFlora]

If you notice in the pic of my rez and twin totes, the rez is lower than the bulkhead.

Many people do not know (my hydro store included) that once the low pressure pump is turned off, the nutes will drain back through it into the rez.

This tip is a game changer for me

[PetFlora]

Originally Posted by stoned-trout

sorry to say it but I grew hydro for years all diff kinds and nutes ..when I switched to organic my product got better...theres more in play than just nutrients..all kinds of microbes and such and living soil....yeehaw..to each their own I don't try and convert anyone..that said,,, hydro gave me faster growth and higher yield without question

No worries! Makes me think though, PERHAPS it's what I do TO the water to energize it (think organic water) that makes the difference

[Buddyy]

"The old argument that organic tastes better is laughable".......you are joking right?
I can only speak from personal experience and that is that organically grown weed DOES taste better than salt based ferts. I have read other people sharing this view. Pet you are the first person I have come across that does not share this view.
"Another great benefit of Hydro is growth, which is typically 2-4Xs greater. This is confirmed by many Greenhouse Seed YT videos"......LOL! Have you ever grown organically? Well I have grown in hydro and in soilless mediums and now finally and thank god I do ROLS and am growing the BEST indoor weed in my life with the least money, the least time and the least problems EVER.
I will call BS when I see it.

[Buddyy]

Growth in hydro is not 2-4X greater. IMO hydro is perhaps up to 50% faster in veg....but who gives a shit anyway I mean a 10 week strain is still going to take 10 weeks whether in hydro or soil. Sure maybe you have up to 30% higher yield in hydro but even that I think is debateable.

So basically you may perhaps gain a week off veg and an increase in yield of say 30% if your lucky....all so you can spend your time and money on ph meters, ec meters and ferts and boosters and oh lets not forget to preventive spray for bugs and PM because your plants are so weak and have no immune system.....yea hydro so 1990's....I can't believe people still stuck there.

[John LOQUE]

Originally Posted by Buddyy

Growth in hydro is not 2-4X greater. IMO hydro is perhaps up to 50% faster in veg....but who gives a shit anyway I mean a 10 week strain is still going to take 10 weeks whether in hydro or soil. Sure maybe you have up to 30% higher yield in hydro but even that I think is debateable.

So basically you may perhaps gain a week off veg and an increase in yield of say 30% if your lucky....all so you can spend your time and money on ph meters, ec meters and ferts and boosters and oh lets not forget to preventive spray for bugs and PM because your plants are so weak and have no immune system.....yea hydro so 1990's....I can't believe people still stuck there.

I grow hydro because is far more simple than in soil. In soil i always had to manage the waterings and the nute program, so when to water and when to give nutes. In DWC, you set your mix once a week, and basta. With chelated nutes, you don't even have to care about the PH. And when i see pics of plants grown in soil, i can't avoid a smile, with maybe 20/30 grams per plant, tall and skinny plant. I make 600 gr with 400 w COB led's in 1 sq meter with 4 plants vegged 4 weeks from seed, in average. I can't imagine doing the same with soil.
And soil plants finish faster than in DWC, at least one week faster for a classic 8 weeker. But yield ... ok, i stop.

[BadRabbit]

Originally Posted by Buddyy

Growth in hydro is not 2-4X greater. IMO hydro is perhaps up to 50% faster in veg....but who gives a shit anyway I mean a 10 week strain is still going to take 10 weeks whether in hydro or soil. Sure maybe you have up to 30% higher yield in hydro but even that I think is debateable.

So basically you may perhaps gain a week off veg and an increase in yield of say 30% if your lucky....all so you can spend your time and money on ph meters, ec meters and ferts and boosters and oh lets not forget to preventive spray for bugs and PM because your plants are so weak and have no immune system.....yea hydro so 1990's....I can't believe people still stuck there.

wow ....

[PetFlora]

Originally Posted by Buddyy

Growth in hydro is not 2-4X greater. IMO hydro is perhaps up to 50% faster in veg....but who gives a shit anyway I mean a 10 week strain is still going to take 10 weeks whether in hydro or soil. Sure maybe you have up to 30% higher yield in hydro but even that I think is debateable.

So basically you may perhaps gain a week off veg and an increase in yield of say 30% if your lucky....all so you can spend your time and money on ph meters, ec meters and ferts and boosters and oh lets not forget to preventive spray for bugs and PM because your plants are so weak and have no immune system.....yea hydro so 1990's....I can't believe people still stuck there.

If you don't have real world knowledge you shouldn't voice an ignorant opinion that you seem to think is FACT

Just because you live in a sheltered world doesn't mean there's not a big wide world outside of it.

IMO the organic zealots v inorganic hydro argument stems from a lot of inexperienced/mediocre hydro growers results (crappy nutes/pH issues/too high ppm/no flush/no DO/temps too warm...). I see plenty of hydro growers using 1500-2000ppms with heavy PK boosters, which will kill the flavor. I max at ~900ppms (briefly), using Hydroponic Research V + B, a complete dry formula specifically for cannabis

Had you gone to the Greenhouse links you would have seen MANY videos of individual strains with side-by-side pics/updates throughout (organic v hydro), including dry harvest weights. But why would you? You're convinced 2-4xs is impossible, and well, the voice in your head says so

The BS is on you BUDDY

[Buddyy]

To each their own.

I find hydro complicated and full of potential problems and things that can go wrong. The main thing I don't like about hydro is I find it UNNATURAL. Another thing is the taste of the weed, organic DEFINITELY tastes BETTER.
Weed grown in hydro is like force feeding whereas in organic living soil the plants are free to choose what they want when they want it. Plants grown in organic living soil have superior immune systems.

Sure I only yield about 0,5gr per watt (I buy 15cm clones, veg them for 2 weeks in 20l smart pots)but I'm not in it for the money. I love producing top quality weed from plants that were happy and untreated with any insecticides or pesticides, just some aloe vera foliar sprays, barley enzyme teas, ACT from ewc and molasses.
I also save money by recycling my soil, making my own garden compost, EWC and using plants from my garden to make fertilisers.
The only thing I buy from the growshop these days are clones and bulbs and air filters. I think organic is also better for the environment.

Wait I hear ya...But yield, oh yea yield thats real important. LOL

UNNATURAL remember...or if you like ARTIFICIAL :P

I'm out of here, good luck to you all!