[PetFlora]

Originally Posted by DeceiverZ

Thanks for sharing the info guys.

I was on the Spydr 1200 bandwagon until I started looking at other fixtures. It would appear as though the white "complete spectrum" diodes are making a lot more appearances in newer generations which is something to look out for.

I have a 4x8' table and was contemplating getting two of the Spydr 1200's to cover this space. However, I'm now also contemplating the Amare SE250s to cover that same space. Whatever I end up with I'll be sure to share a journal here with you guys.

-DZ

I have no axe to grind with Fluence, other then Nick never listened to me (not that I know all, but, come on their fixture makes no sense)

I promise you will be amazed with 2 SE 250s!

[McStickyLungs]

Originally Posted by Phaeton

Do they pay you by post or are you on a general retainer?

My opinion differs from your opinion. But I spent time and money on a testing grow room where I do nothing except grow plants under various lights. Presently I am growing with five brands of LED as discharge lights are not making new progress. And for stand alone lighting HPS comes in dead last in equal photon count growing.

Based on this experience I find the claim of your favorite being "by far the best light in the industry" to be baseless and untested.

I tend to overreact to misinformation, the Spyder may be an OK light but this is a growing forum, not an advertising site for commercial messages.

By the sound of it your HPS is doing just fine for you. I'd rather have the skeptics stay with there old technology, if it worked for the past 20 years why not keep running it until 2100??

[chomsky]

Well any doubters should check out my grow report. It's not the prettiest grow because I out grew my space. But I garuntee I'm getting 2lbs of sugar coated Nugs from 4 plants. The colas are gigantic. I have even been growing with the lights powered at 90% because my girls got too tall. Haters hate all day I don't care. Doubters stick with HPS they are tried and true but expensive and hot. I'll never look back. LED is here to stay and only getting better. I'm completely sold on Fluence Lights. Proof is in my grow room!!!!'

[dimebag_]

Originally Posted by norcallefty

ordered today in 4 weeks ill have 10 of these in my hands..

top people still using LEC and Phantom DE's currently...

changing the game shortly. talked to a local who got 2+lbs of one of the spydr 1200s not even new model

norcal-

hey wassup-did ya ever get ur 10 lights goin? was just curious about your thoughts on these??

DB

[chomsky]

I still am completely on board with my spyderx plus. Check out my chocolope kush grow report.

[dimebag_]

Originally Posted by chomsky

I still am completely on board with my spyderx plus. Check out my chocolope kush grow report.

nice feed chomsky! the link you posted is for the lemon skunk tho…

how are the finished results (yield, taste, resin production) with the spyderx compared to a regular 1000W hps or whatever u were running before?
how much heat do they generate compared to 1000W hps if u know?

does one light effectively do a 4x4' footprint u think?

just curious cuz they sound great other than the initial cost. Then again I think u don't have to replace the diodes for a long time if ever and I believe they degrade very little as far as briteness??

I don't run ac or a sealed room so I'm thinking to upgrade to either these or mabe some 630W cmh lamps to get better spectrum and less heat if possible. I read that these lights can keep up or beat de hps as far as yield but Ive never run either. I run just air-cooled reg 1000W's hps all the way thru-thanks for your help bro-
cheers

DB

[chomsky]

As far as I'm concerned they blow my HPS away in all ways. Little to no heat awesome penetration and yes covers a 4x4 perfectly. My yields are bigger and the Nugs just as tastey and strong. I think my lemon skunk could have gone a couple more weeks tho and the nugs would have been much denser. I'm growing a chocolope kush right now I will definitly let go to the bitter end. I got just a bit impatient with my last lemon skunk.

Check it out here

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=327755

[Ledsicon]

Originally Posted by stoned-trout

led cant touch de hid.....yeehaw...unless maybe you cover all the walls with them...led don't have the penetration...

petflora is very right, it sure is possible.

ive seen several buds from another brand i cant name here With cree cobs that created as big buds 1,60 from lightsource as hps has done in 1 meter or so..

for the first time in years i also have gottn proof that quality leds, With quality Spectrum and the right hands can easily yield more gram pr watt than hps easily mark my Words...

[Koondense]

Originally Posted by Ledsicon

for the first time in years i also have gottn proof that quality leds, With quality Spectrum and the right hands can easily yield more gram pr watt than hps easily mark my Words...

That's a well known fact for a couple of years. But still most people believe hids are best; of course they never seen a good led light and what it can do.
A great reference thread
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=333629

[chomsky]

I stand by my SpydrX. I wouldn't even consider going back to HID